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Old 05-10-2008, 03:03 PM
joel garry
 
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Default Re: Oracle chief architect says there ought to be one Linux

On May 8, 12:45*pm, Cydrome Leader <prese...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
> In comp.unix.aix chrisv <chr...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > joel garry wrote:

>
> >>I've come to the opinion that linux as sold/supported is a toy OS
> >>running on toy hardware,

>
> > Yeah, that's why countless corporations and research organizations use
> > and depend on it. *Tell google that Linux is a "toy OS".

>
> google does run toy hardware. I've seen more than enough of it at
> datacenters.


And they screw things up, too. I've personally seen: usenet posts
take 18 hours to get posted, and interrupted transactions (I'm talking
about dollars, not usenet here) get committed rather than rolling
back. And I've heard about a lot more, but I don't want to send this
thread off on that tangent (you can, ahem, google plenty of stuff).

I think google is a real bad example of proving that cheapo hardware
is in general a good thing. They have craploads of capital to throw
at it, which doesn't imply efficiency at all. Whether it actually
will work for google over the long run remains to be seen, but there
is nothing to show that it is appropriate for others. Especially the
part about having so much redundant hardware they have to build a
special building with the cooling requirements of an old-style nuclear
plant. And two identical searches _still_ may not give consistent
results.

In the datacenters I've seen, which range from medium sized companies
to large gummint, the Intel commodity crap comes and goes, Windows is
forever being rebooted, and the real unices only go down for some dumb-
ass yanking the plug when they're not supposed to (or the rare rman
job fragmenting I/O buffers and... oops, didn't mean to say that one
out loud, either).

And I've seen a few places with linux/Oracle/RAC that just seem to
have expectations way out in left field. Are they stupid or have they
been oversold?

jg
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