"P.T. Breuer" <ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es> wrote in message
news:7pmntb.hda.ln@news.it.uc3m.es...

> > It is your claim to prove, not mine to disprove.
>
> No, it's your claim that cdroms can be masters to normal ide devices!
> You "prove" it.

How is a CD-RW a "normal" ide device? Isn't it just as ATAPI as a CD-ROM
drive?

> > Others have already
> > disagreed with you.
>
> No they haven't. I only recall one person, and I'm not sure that wasn't
> you. And if they do, so what?

"No they haven't... well, that one, but nobody else..."

> > Disproving something that doesn't exist is next to impossible.
>
> There you are then - you prove it, since you claim you have a hold of
> the fact. You find the doc that says that cdroms can master ide disks.
>
> Maybe it exists, maybe it doesn't!

Following some links from "How stuff works" (you should try it sometime, you
might learn something).
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/conf.htm
"Note that despite the hierarchical-sounding names of "master" and "slave",
the master drive does not have any special status compared to the slave one;
they are really equals in most respects. The slave drive doesn't rely on the
master drive for its operation or anything like that..."

You see, IDE (Integrated Drive Electronics) means that all the electronics
to operate the drive are (wait for it) integrated with the drive...

> > > Oh, a random scan through the atapi howto (WHY do I do this for you?)
> > > stumps up the following kind of burble:
> > >
> > > Q5: I've installed the drive as the only device on the secondary
> > ^^^^^^^^
> > > interface, with the CDROM drive jumpered as SLAVE/SINGLE, and Linux
> > > won't see it. What am I missing?
>
> > That doesn't say anything about using a CD-RW as a slave with a CD-Rom
as
> > master.
>
> Nor do I much care about cdrws as slaves in particular - cdrws aren't
> partcularly generic ide devices either.

I would rely on that memory of yours too much:
> > > > > Ask rather why a cdrw must be master to a cdrom.

> No, it's your claim that cdroms can be masters to normal ide devices!

You just forgot what you were talking about twice in one sentence.

--
William Hooper

If you don't care where you are, then you ain't lost