On Sat, 08 Sep 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in article
<4F24AE45D4%news@youmustbejoking.demon.cu.invalid> , Darren Salt wrote:

>[snip; in reply to Ottavio Caruso]
>> You seem to be posting from IP space owned by Demon Internet, and they
>> even have their own news server.
>
>... but Usenet access via Demon's server isn't listed as part of their
>Home 8000 offering, whereas it is for their Home/Office and Business
>offerings. I >have no idea whether it's actually accessible by people
>using Home 8000, though.

Some ISPs seem to think it's not important (aol.com, Bharti, Reliance,
and VSNL being examples which cause their "users" to post from google)
but even .163.net in China has a server, and I've seen it used by their
customers. None-the-less, as I continued

]] For others who aren't as lucky, there are free (as in "no cost")
]] news servers with better abuse control than google, as well as a
]] large number of low cost commercial news servers. A fair number
]] of them even offer 'web' interface if for some bizarre reason that
]] is the only access you have to the Internet.

Some of the "free" servers (and web-forums that are porting Usenet)
don't have the best reputation (and therefore may be killfiled by some),
but they are _usually_ better than google.

It doesn't have to take a lot of hardware, bandwidth, or effort to
setup and run a news server. The "official" Big Eight newsgroups
(comp.*, humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, and
talk.*) only total 2276 groups as of the 15th of August (see the
post "List of Big Eight Newsgroups" posted to news.announce.newgroups,
news.groups, and news.lists.misc on the 15th of each month), and even
that list is getting smaller as the Big Eight managers are deleting
"dead" groups. Actually, one of the ISPs I have access to seems to
be carrying "anything you want - just ask for it", and the few times
I've looked at it, I think it's a *nix server running leafnode and
admin'ed by the owner's son.

Old guy