Simon wrote:
> From the sound of the letter combination 'ui' in other words (e.g
> Duits), would it be something similar to how we would say 'oi'? I
> don't think I could describe that accurately either.

well, *i* wouldn't describe dutch 'ui' with 'oi'... both vowels in 'ui' are
front rounded vowels, the first is a mid vowel (as it's called; i.e.,
slightly below the middle of the mouth), the second high. so its
pronunciation starts with a fairly wide open mouth, tip of the tongue bent
down, then the front of the tongue (which is *not* the tip, but the part
right behind the tip) is raised (same as with the dipththong 'ai' in
'raised', btw: it ends in the same way.) and all this with *rounded* lips.

it's really something you should hear... ;-)

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since when is vi an editor? a discussion on vi belongs in
comp.tools.unusable or something... ;-)