A-B C. <atakeoutcanton@adams-blaketakeout.com> wrote:
> I hear a lot of noise about swaret being or not being included in the new 10.0
> release. Obviously, it is Patrick Volkerding's (PV) choice and I doubt he

What noise? Isn't is in extra already?

> The issue is simple. What is best for Slackware? I'll leave the techie

Uh, what Pat thinks is best?

> arguments to those who like them. Dependency checking or no dependency
> checking debates can go on until the moon turns blue.
>
> All of us want Slack to be continued. That means that someone (i.e. we) have
> to pay for it. I believe that PV would never "sell out" by including "bad
> stuff" in Slack in order to compete. However, he (and we) need to consider
> something (not agree on it... just consider it.): Is Slack more marketable
> with a designated 'full-bore' pkg manager or not?
>
> Why is "marketable" important to you? Simple. People have choices. Everytime
> someone chooses a Deb or a Fedora or a Gentoo over Slackware means less
> possible revenue for PV. Maybe PV would "do" Slack even if there were only

Ah, I see you are another one of them - you related to GP by any chance?

> So I hope that PV has enough "business sense" to see that a Slack with a
> dependency-checking PM makes it a better product, one that is more marketable
> and more competitive. It costs PV nothing to include a swaret or a slapt-get
> utility as his "weapon of choice" and it makes the product a better one.

Yes, unless Pat does this Slackware will fail. I've been hearing that one
for a long time now.... You could also argue that there is no way
Slackware could ever be sucessful unless it changes it's name to something
that sounds more serious.

> I know to a fair segment of the Slack (and Linux) community, making money is
> an anathema... that working on Linux should be a labor of love. However, the

Where did you come up with that bullshit? Sounds like MS FUD. I'm pretty
sure Slackware is the only distro out there that has always been in the
black.

> reality of the situation is that without an income to PV, Slack would be
> turned over to a "community of developers" and we'd see updates about as

No it wouldn't. It would be something else - no longer Slackware.

> frequently as Deb stable ..... like never... or we'd see daily bug-ridden
> releases like Fedora. We need PV to continue his work... and I think Slack
> needs a dep-check PM to keep it from being rated about as high as whatever is
> number 100 on distrowatch.com. Because if that happens, PV will go on to
> other endeavors and Gentoo will be the distro of choice for those who
> graduate from Mandrake or SuSE.

Like I said, you really need to get together with GP.

- Kurt