Franklin wrote:
> On Sat, 07 May 2005 18:41:12 -0700, narke wrote:
>
> >
> > 1, is there any differences between FVWM and KDE in the sense of
> > handling fonts. why FVWM look good whereas KDE looks ugly?
> >
> > 2, where can i check what fonts the FVWM used? if so, i guess i can
let
> > KDE to use it. right?
> >
> > -
> > narke
>
> The "easy" answer can be found in /etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc
>
> #
> # Fonts - one for window titles, another for icons, and another for
the menus
> #
> WindowFont -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-12*-*-*-*-*-*-*
> IconFont fixed
> MenuStyle black #DCDAD5 grey30
-*-tahoma-medium-r-*-*-*-80-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
> fvwm
>
> What is above is from mine which I changed from default. The default
font
> is adobe helvetica. As you can see, I changed my menu font to tahoma
at 8
> point.
>
> FVWM does not use antialiasing. KDE and Gnome do by default. The
default
> font in Gnome/KDE is Bitstream Vera wich is not pretty without
> antialiasing. The easy solution would be to change the font being
used
> in KDE and Gnome and whatever apps you use to Helvetica.
>
> The better (my opinion ), and of course more involved way, would
be to
> do the following:
>
> If you have access to MS True Type fonts install them.
> Download and recompile fretype to enable bytecode interpreting.

okay. i'v did it.

> Turn off antialiasing everywhere.

turn off? i heard 'enable bytecode interepting' in freetype is really
doing a turing off antialiasing. so why turn on above and turn off
here?

and, i has to make it clear what you really mean when talking about
'turn off'. did you mean go to gnome control center and kde controler
then click some options around there?

this leads to another question, which one will get dominated if
freetype and gnome/kde setting do not agree?

> Choose your favorite font for all apps (mine is Tahoma at 8 point)
> Edit the above mentioned fvwm2.rc file to use the same font and size
> - xfontsel is very helpful for this.
> Also, be sure to create a .gtkrc-2.0 file in your home directory to
> control the font used for GTK apps like moz and gimp etc. Add the
line:
> gtk-font-name = "Tahoma 8" or what ever you want.

hey, similar to above, if i set 'x font' here and set 'y font' in
gnome/kde control center, which one will get dominate? and as i knew
one can also set fonts in /etc/fonts.conf. why there are so may
duplicated information around fonts? it really drive me crazy!

> You're good to go.
>

> I just did this on my box to make sure I was not talking out my ass
and it
> works great. I don't normally use fvwm2, but now that I figured this
> out I may stay here awhile - this sucker is fast.

yes, it is really cool! enjoy it! actually, i hate kde and gnome but
have to live with gnome and kde apps.

> I don't like antialiased fonts - too blurry -

did you mean ... let my put it this way: by truning on a option in
the freetype header file and turn off antialiasing setting in
kde/gnome, you'v managed to get pretty result without artifical blurry?

> so most of the hard work for me was done allready. I
> just needed to find the fvwm config file and change the font. You
will
> probably be just as happy with changing everything else to helvetica
-
> particularly if you do not have access to MS TT fonts.

yes, i do access MS TTF :-) i knew their popular Arial is a
'accessing' to Helvetica.


>
> HTH