Hi all,

Does anyone have the hardware manuals that came with these systems?
I got a hold of three of them, but have not been able to find the manuals
anywhere on the 'net. There's plenty of references to them, though,
spec-wise. :/

Thanks,

-- DN
Daniel
Note: email address rot13'd

Hi,

Could you give us first six SN Numbers like 7012-44 or 7009-44.

Thanks
<enzhar@arg-ebava.bet> a écrit dans le message de
news:b%RLa.43485$Mc4.5704153@news0.telusplanet.net ...
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone have the hardware manuals that came with these systems?
> I got a hold of three of them, but have not been able to find the manuals
> anywhere on the 'net. There's plenty of references to them, though,
> spec-wise. :/
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- DN
> Daniel
> Note: email address rot13'd

Probably a model 250 means a 7011-250?
The manuals for these should be somewhere here in the company,
but only the ones for the 7013-520 and AIX 3.2 are just behind my back.
Only online manuals availiable are these:
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver...hardware_docs/
Whadda you wanna know?

Gereon

"André" schrieb:
>
> Hi,
>
> Could you give us first six SN Numbers like 7012-44 or 7009-44.
>
> Thanks
> <enzhar@arg-ebava.bet> a écrit dans le message de
> news:b%RLa.43485$Mc4.5704153@news0.telusplanet.net ...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Does anyone have the hardware manuals that came with these systems?
> > I got a hold of three of them, but have not been able to find the manuals
> > anywhere on the 'net. There's plenty of references to them, though,
> > spec-wise. :/
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -- DN
> > Daniel
> > Note: email address rot13'd

In article <3F0021B0.35BEE489@ibh.rwth-aachen.de>,
Gereon Wenzel <wenzel@ibh.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
>Probably a model 250 means a 7011-250?
>The manuals for these should be somewhere here in the company,
>but only the ones for the 7013-520 and AIX 3.2 are just behind my back.
>Only online manuals availiable are these:
>http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver...hardware_docs/
>Whadda you wanna know?

Yup.

Didn't see the 250 manuals there. :/

I recently got 3 of those systems, but I have no documentation for them,
so I'd like to know stuff like:

What types of memory it can take.
The types of hard drives/peripherals it can use.
The types of connectors it has -- I don't recognize the terminal connector.
etc.

Any information pertaining to them would be useful.

Oh, yeah... this is going to sound a bit stupid, but...

How do I open it?

Either I'm missing some obvious latch/screw/level/button, or all three units
are welded shut. For some reason, the latter doesn't seem very likely.

Thanks for any help,

-- DN
Daniel

ramune@net-ronin.org (carbonated beverage) wrote in message news:<Kj4Ma.24262$ZS3.2246174@news2.telusplanet.ne t>...
> In article <3F0021B0.35BEE489@ibh.rwth-aachen.de>,
> Gereon Wenzel <wenzel@ibh.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> >Probably a model 250 means a 7011-250?
> >The manuals for these should be somewhere here in the company,
> >but only the ones for the 7013-520 and AIX 3.2 are just behind my back.
> >Only online manuals availiable are these:
> >http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver...hardware_docs/
> >Whadda you wanna know?
>
> Yup.
>
> Didn't see the 250 manuals there. :/
>
> I recently got 3 of those systems, but I have no documentation for them,
> so I'd like to know stuff like:
>
> What types of memory it can take.
> The types of hard drives/peripherals it can use.

The 7011-250 is a microchannel machine. If you snag the "Adapters,
Devices, and Cable Information for Micro Channel Machines" from the
ibm pseries hardware documentation webisite posted earlier you may be
able to find your memory listed there. Any off the shelf Single Ended
SCSI Hard drive should work. Needs 50 pin interface. Try to keep the
drives to 4.0GB or below as that IMO is the breakover point for
reliability with these guys. However if you can stick with IBM RS6000
qualified drives (originally available only from ibm, which you should
be able to find in the used markets) the reliability is even better.


> The types of connectors it has -- I don't recognize the terminal connector.
> etc.

As above it is MicroChannel.
The terminal connector? There are two DB25-RS232 ports on the
machine. Use S1 if you have a dumb terminal to attach. There is one
DB25-Parallel port. There is an DB15-AUI Ethernet port (looks like a
game port on a PC) below the parallel port. There will be an external
SCSI connector belos the card slots. Some of these models had (S)VGA
adapters and it's connection

>
> Any information pertaining to them would be useful.

The 7011 service guide is still purchasable from ibm:

7011 SERVICE GUIDE (SA23-2665-05) (cost is around $32.00)


>
> Oh, yeah... this is going to sound a bit stupid, but...
>
> How do I open it?

Question. Did you get the keys with them? If you don't have the keys
you will have to pry them open. Key needs to be placed in the service
postion then the plastic tab in the back needs to be pushed down.
Then the inside chasis should slide out the front of the case.
Without a key you will need to use a flat blade screwdriver (a heavy
duty one) to pry up the metal case where the metal case meets the
plastic front bezel until the lock latch will clear when pulling the
chasis out the front. You will bugger up the case doing this and the
case will never fit real well again.

>
> Either I'm missing some obvious latch/screw/level/button, or all three units
> are welded shut. For some reason, the latter doesn't seem very likely.

These guys are old and although the clock speed is slow they aren't
too bad of a little machine. Have a couple myself that are rather fun
to tinker around with aid in my further learning of AIX.

Have Fun.

>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> -- DN
> Daniel

Take a look here:

http://webpages.charter.net/ohlandl/...ry_matrix.html

You can probably find the memory information you need there.

CT

In article <3F01B1A9.8070402@eads.matradatavision.com>,
Alberto 'JCN-9000' Varesio <A-Varesio@eads.dnsalias.net> wrote:
>http://www2.ibmlink.ibm.com/cgi-bin/...&parms=SMS&xh=
>gCop*Rv8zmngyW2USenGnN9332&xhi=usa.main%7Csalesma nual%5E&type=D&search=&
>title=T&product=7011-250

Thanks, the parts number listings helps quite a bit.

>> The types of connectors it has -- I don't recognize the terminal connector.
>
>Vido connector depend on adapter. 3W3 is 3 BNC RGB Sync on green, also
>had BW cards.

The 3 connectors in the back are for mouse, keyboard, and terminal -- and
they all look the same aside the label on them. It's definately not 13W3
by the looks of it.

>> Oh, yeah... this is going to sound a bit stupid, but...
>>
>> How do I open it?
>
>Yes, this is pretty hard. IIRC walkthrough is :
>Put box on sturdy table.
>Tun keylock to Service and pull out the key, or it won't open.
>Facing back of box gently press rear middle latch
>and SLIDE PULL inner part keeping outer cover on the table.
>Yes it is HARD to slide the two components, much more if they haven't
>for a long time.

Ergh. Okay, so I *do* have to force it, then. Putting it into service
and removing keys, still didn't come out that smooth so I was afraid of
breaking something...

>Under the cover you have a protective sheet of metal with blocking screws on
>the side. Unscrew and slide it away.
>
>You are in. Level 1 complete.

Thanks to you and everyone else that replied, help much appreciated.

Time to get those boxes working again!

(Next step: AS/400 Model 400 resurrection!)

-- DN
Daniel
Note: Email addx rot13'd