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Old 01-06-2008, 08:39 PM
Garry
 
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Default Solaris 10 with SRSS 3.0

I know SRSS on Solaris 10 is not supported yet, but does it work? I've
downloaded the latest version of each from sun.com, and would like to
upgrade. I've read about problems with zones, usb mass storage support
etc, but I wonder if these are resolved yet?

Anyone with personal experience, your input will be much appreciated.

Cheers

Garry
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:39 PM
Martin Paul
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 with SRSS 3.0

Garry <banditstan2000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I know SRSS on Solaris 10 is not supported yet, but does it work? I've
> downloaded the latest version of each from sun.com, and would like to
> upgrade. I've read about problems with zones, usb mass storage support
> etc, but I wonder if these are resolved yet?
>
> Anyone with personal experience, your input will be much appreciated.


See the recent "ZFS release date???" thread, esp. the postings from
Gary Mills and ottomeister.

mp.
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:40 PM
Toomas Soome
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 with SRSS 3.0

Garry <banditstan2000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I know SRSS on Solaris 10 is not supported yet, but does it work? I've
> downloaded the latest version of each from sun.com, and would like to
> upgrade. I've read about problems with zones, usb mass storage support
> etc, but I wonder if these are resolved yet?
>
> Anyone with personal experience, your input will be much appreciated.
>


at least in global zone, yes.

toomas
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today.
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:41 PM
Scott Howard
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 with SRSS 3.0

Garry <banditstan2000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I know SRSS on Solaris 10 is not supported yet, but does it work? I've
> downloaded the latest version of each from sun.com, and would like to
> upgrade. I've read about problems with zones, usb mass storage support
> etc, but I wonder if these are resolved yet?


The short version is :
Works - Yes
Supported - No
Panics the system occasionally - possibly (especially if you use USB
memory cards)
Safe to run on a home machine - Yes
Safe to run on a production machines - Hell no!

The problems with Zones/USB/etc will probably not be resolved in 3.0, as
they are not bugs as such due to 3.0 not being supported on 10. When it
does come out, the next version of SRSS will have full support for S10,
although I have no idea when that will be...

Scott
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:41 PM
palowoda
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 with SRSS 3.0


Scott Howard wrote:
> Garry <banditstan2000@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > I know SRSS on Solaris 10 is not supported yet, but does it work?

I've
> > downloaded the latest version of each from sun.com, and would like

to
> > upgrade. I've read about problems with zones, usb mass storage

support
> > etc, but I wonder if these are resolved yet?

>
> The short version is :
> Works - Yes
> Supported - No
> Panics the system occasionally - possibly (especially if you use USB
> memory cards)
> Safe to run on a home machine - Yes
> Safe to run on a production machines - Hell no!
>
> The problems with Zones/USB/etc will probably not be resolved in 3.0,

as
> they are not bugs as such due to 3.0 not being supported on 10. When

it
> does come out, the next version of SRSS will have full support for

S10,
> although I have no idea when that will be...
>
> Scott



Yes SRSS is supported on Solaris 10. All Sun products are now in sync
with Solaris 10. It's not like anybody was hiding anything.

---Bob

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Old 01-06-2008, 08:41 PM
Scott Howard
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 with SRSS 3.0

palowoda <palowoda@fiver.net> wrote:
> Yes SRSS is supported on Solaris 10. All Sun products are now in sync
> with Solaris 10. It's not like anybody was hiding anything.


No, it is NOT supported. It's as simple as that. Certainly nobody is
"hiding anything" - the release notes for it only list Solaris 8 and 9,
and several Sun people here have clearly stated that it's not supported
on S10.

SRSS fits into that category of applications which have kernel modules,
and thus will frequently NOT work between releases of Solaris. (As
opposed to user-land applications which are "guaranteed" to work on
later versions of Solaris.

Scott
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:41 PM
Fredrik Lundholm
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 with SRSS 3.0

In article <1110023668.477463.249150@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups .com>,
palowoda <palowoda@fiver.net> wrote:

>Yes SRSS is supported on Solaris 10. All Sun products are now in sync
>with Solaris 10. It's not like anybody was hiding anything.


I want to believe you but I cannot find anything that substantiates
your claims. I cannot find a Sun Intro, data--sheet patch or anything.

/wfr
Fredrik


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Old 01-06-2008, 08:41 PM
Casper H.S. Dik
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 with SRSS 3.0

Scott Howard <scott@hunterlink.net.au> writes:

>palowoda <palowoda@fiver.net> wrote:
>> Yes SRSS is supported on Solaris 10. All Sun products are now in sync
>> with Solaris 10. It's not like anybody was hiding anything.


>No, it is NOT supported. It's as simple as that. Certainly nobody is
>"hiding anything" - the release notes for it only list Solaris 8 and 9,
>and several Sun people here have clearly stated that it's not supported
>on S10.


>SRSS fits into that category of applications which have kernel modules,
>and thus will frequently NOT work between releases of Solaris. (As
>opposed to user-land applications which are "guaranteed" to work on
>later versions of Solaris.


Applications with kernel modules "should work" also; but as things
go in Solaris, we break our own rules because we know more :-(

In the particular case of SRSS, it's also tightly coupled with the
Xserver and knows too much for its own good.

Casper
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Expressed in this posting are my opinions. They are in no way related
to opinions held by my employer, Sun Microsystems.
Statements on Sun products included here are not gospel and may
be fiction rather than truth.
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:42 PM
John D Groenveld
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 with SRSS 3.0

In article <d0cjoe$qk4$1@eol.dd.chalmers.se>,
Fredrik Lundholm <dol@ce.chalmers.se> wrote:
>I want to believe you but I cannot find anything that substantiates
>your claims. I cannot find a Sun Intro, data--sheet patch or anything.


Perhaps Bob's been listening to Analyst Summits and mistakenly thinks
that Solaris 10 customer acceptance is paramount to John Loiacono's
Desktop Software Madhatters?

What's JohnnyL telling Sun Ray Server customers who would like to help
the Software division increase the Solaris 10 ecosystem?

Hopefully not, "No roadmap for you!", but then how else should we interpret
his product pages?
<URL:http://www.sun.com/software/sunray/index.xml>

Is Software's dysfunction reflected in SUNW's share price or should
investors be expecting another revaluation downward?

John
groenveld@acm.org
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Old 01-06-2008, 08:42 PM
ottomeister
 
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Default Re: Solaris 10 with SRSS 3.0

Casper H.S. Dik wrote:
> Scott Howard <scott@hunterlink.net.au> writes:
> >SRSS fits into that category of applications which have kernel

modules,
> >and thus will frequently NOT work between releases of Solaris. (As
> >opposed to user-land applications which are "guaranteed" to work on
> >later versions of Solaris.


Applications are "guaranteed" except where the application
depends on something that is outside the guarantee. The
application guarantee is broad, but it's not all-encompassing.

It doesn't cover, for instance, adding a line to
/etc/inet/inetd.conf and HUP'ing inetd in order to get inetd
to start managing a network listener for you. Through S9 that
works pretty darn well, do it on S10 and you're going to be
disappointed.

> Applications with kernel modules "should work" also; but as things
> go in Solaris, we break our own rules because we know more :-(


It's not a case of the SRSS kernel modules "knowing more" than
they should, the SRSS USB storage kernel driver problems are
simply bugs.

> In the particular case of SRSS, it's also tightly coupled with the
> Xserver and knows too much for its own good.


Yes, SRSS is closely coupled with the Xserver (as closely as
necessary, no more if we can help it) and yes, it probably
does know too much for its own good in a couple of areas, but
neither of these are significant factors in why SRSS isn't yet
supported on S10. You can tell by looking at the very short
list of tweaks that are required to get SRSS 3.0 to run on S10
that the technical issues are minor, bordering on trivial.

Scott Howard <scott@hunterlink.net.au> also wrote:
> The problems with Zones/USB/etc will probably not be resolved in 3.0,

as
> they are not bugs as such due to 3.0 not being supported on 10. When

it
> does come out, the next version of SRSS will have full support for

S10,
> although I have no idea when that will be...


I'm not sure what you mean by "full support for S10". The
next release of SRSS will be supported on S10 in the global
zone. An instance of SRSS will not run inside a local zone
in the next release because, in its current form, it needs
to do things that processes in a local zone are not allowed
to do.

OttoM.
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Disclaimer: These are my opinions. I do not speak for my employer.

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