Hello:
I am using Fedora 4 and SUSE 10... and more and more SUSE.

I have tried the latest (beta) of FC5, and am moderately impressed: I am not
talking about the bugs, I am talking about ease of use!

I am considering installing UBUNTU but hesitate between UBUNTU and KUBUNTU.
I like KDE, which I find usually a better GUI than GNOME, also KDE platform
progress faster than GNOME.
Would appreciate comments and advises.
Also is the XFS file system properly supported under (k)UBUNTU?
And last but not least can you have UBUNTU and KUBUNTU with a login option?
Thanks.
---

Am 06.03.2006 22:03 schrieb AnonymousFC4:
> Hello:
> I am using Fedora 4 and SUSE 10... and more and more SUSE.
>
> I have tried the latest (beta) of FC5, and am moderately impressed: I am not
> talking about the bugs, I am talking about ease of use!
>
> I am considering installing UBUNTU but hesitate between UBUNTU and KUBUNTU.
> I like KDE, which I find usually a better GUI than GNOME, also KDE platform
> progress faster than GNOME.
> Would appreciate comments and advises.
> Also is the XFS file system properly supported under (k)UBUNTU?
> And last but not least can you have UBUNTU and KUBUNTU with a login option?
> Thanks.

Kubuntu and ubuntu are equal. The only difference is the installed
desktop. You can get kubuntu from ubuntun, if you install the
kubuntu-desktop.

XFS should be no problem.

What do you mean with login option?

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 22:20:32 +0100, Johannes Wienke wrote:

> Am 06.03.2006 22:03 schrieb AnonymousFC4:
>> Hello:
>> I am using Fedora 4 and SUSE 10... and more and more SUSE.
>>
>> I have tried the latest (beta) of FC5, and am moderately impressed: I am not
>> talking about the bugs, I am talking about ease of use!
>>
>> I am considering installing UBUNTU but hesitate between UBUNTU and KUBUNTU.
>> I like KDE, which I find usually a better GUI than GNOME, also KDE platform
>> progress faster than GNOME.
>> Would appreciate comments and advises.
>> Also is the XFS file system properly supported under (k)UBUNTU?
>> And last but not least can you have UBUNTU and KUBUNTU with a login option?
>> Thanks.
>
> Kubuntu and ubuntu are equal. The only difference is the installed
> desktop. You can get kubuntu from ubuntun, if you install the
> kubuntu-desktop.
>
> XFS should be no problem.
>
> What do you mean with login option?

Personally, I suspect that kubuntu and ubuntu are not yet equal, but they
probably will be by the 6-04 release, called Dapper Drake after another
character in a series of British children's books. If you can't wait
until the end of April. Download the ubuntu iso for i386, amd64, or mac
as required. After installing ubuntu, use synaptic to download a package
called "kubuntu-desktop" at this point, you can heave Gnome if you so
desire, but you will need certain packages, like synaptic (I don't think
Adept is ready for prime-time) so you can't get rid of a lot of gnome
support libraries. You are not obliged to use Gnome, though because GDM
will allow you to choose KDE (or you can replace it with KDM).

On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 13:03:24 -0800, AnonymousFC4 wrote:

> Hello:
> I am using Fedora 4 and SUSE 10... and more and more SUSE.
>
> I have tried the latest (beta) of FC5, and am moderately impressed: I am not
> talking about the bugs, I am talking about ease of use!
>
> I am considering installing UBUNTU but hesitate between UBUNTU and KUBUNTU.
> I like KDE, which I find usually a better GUI than GNOME, also KDE platform
> progress faster than GNOME.
> Would appreciate comments and advises.
> Also is the XFS file system properly supported under (k)UBUNTU?
> And last but not least can you have UBUNTU and KUBUNTU with a login option?
> Thanks.
> ---

My choice has been to install Ubuntu and then install the kubuntu desktop
(it's an option available in synaptic). This will certainly give you the
choice of logging in with either gnome or kde (you can also install other
desktops - xfce, etc.). I've done it this way because I prefer gdm instead
of kdm or xdm.

"Johannes"posted the following on 2006-03-06:

> Am 06.03.2006 22:03 schrieb AnonymousFC4:
>> Hello:
>> I am using Fedora 4 and SUSE 10... and more and more SUSE.
>>
>> I have tried the latest (beta) of FC5, and am moderately impressed: I am not
>> talking about the bugs, I am talking about ease of use!
>>
>> I am considering installing UBUNTU but hesitate between UBUNTU and KUBUNTU.
>> I like KDE, which I find usually a better GUI than GNOME, also KDE platform
>> progress faster than GNOME.
>> Would appreciate comments and advises.
>> Also is the XFS file system properly supported under (k)UBUNTU?
>> And last but not least can you have UBUNTU and KUBUNTU with a login option?
>> Thanks.
>
> Kubuntu and ubuntu are equal. The only difference is the installed
> desktop. You can get kubuntu from ubuntun, if you install the
> kubuntu-desktop.
>
> XFS should be no problem.
>
> What do you mean with login option?

KDE and Gnome are far from equal IMO. One is not necessarily better
though : depends what you want. Since the "desktop" is the GUI to the
tools you will use to do a productive job then then things are very
different as are the installed applications.

On my machine KDE was unstable unfortunately which is unfortunate
because I prefer KDE over Gnome from what Ive seen as a general
rule. But I put that down to the ATI video driver since Ive heard they
are not too hot.


--
"A desk is a dangerous place from which to view the world" - LeCarre.

* Richard G. Riley wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:

> "Johannes"posted the following on 2006-03-06:
>
>> Am 06.03.2006 22:03 schrieb AnonymousFC4:
>>> Hello:
>>> I am using Fedora 4 and SUSE 10... and more and more SUSE.
>>>
>>> I have tried the latest (beta) of FC5, and am moderately impressed:
>>> I am not talking about the bugs, I am talking about ease of use!
>>>
>>> I am considering installing UBUNTU but hesitate between UBUNTU and
>>> KUBUNTU. I like KDE, which I find usually a better GUI than GNOME,
>>> also KDE platform progress faster than GNOME.
>>> Would appreciate comments and advises.
>>> Also is the XFS file system properly supported under (k)UBUNTU?
>>> And last but not least can you have UBUNTU and KUBUNTU with a login
>>> option? Thanks.
>>
>> Kubuntu and ubuntu are equal. The only difference is the installed
>> desktop. You can get kubuntu from ubuntun, if you install the
>> kubuntu-desktop.
>>
>> XFS should be no problem.
>>
>> What do you mean with login option?
>
> KDE and Gnome are far from equal IMO.

Not at all what was said. The comparison was against the [K]Ubuntu
distros.

> One is not necessarily better
> though : depends what you want. Since the "desktop" is the GUI to the
> tools you will use to do a productive job then then things are very
> different as are the installed applications.
>
> On my machine KDE was unstable unfortunately which is unfortunate
> because I prefer KDE over Gnome from what Ive seen as a general
> rule.

So run your KDE apps under Gnome and see if your stability issues are
still there.

--
David

"SINNER"posted the following on 2006-03-07:

> * Richard G. Riley wrote in alt.os.linux.debian:
>
>> "Johannes"posted the following on 2006-03-06:
>>
>>> Am 06.03.2006 22:03 schrieb AnonymousFC4:
>>>> Hello:
>>>> I am using Fedora 4 and SUSE 10... and more and more SUSE.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried the latest (beta) of FC5, and am moderately impressed:
>>>> I am not talking about the bugs, I am talking about ease of use!
>>>>
>>>> I am considering installing UBUNTU but hesitate between UBUNTU and
>>>> KUBUNTU. I like KDE, which I find usually a better GUI than GNOME,
>>>> also KDE platform progress faster than GNOME.
>>>> Would appreciate comments and advises.
>>>> Also is the XFS file system properly supported under (k)UBUNTU?
>>>> And last but not least can you have UBUNTU and KUBUNTU with a login
>>>> option? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Kubuntu and ubuntu are equal. The only difference is the installed
>>> desktop. You can get kubuntu from ubuntun, if you install the
>>> kubuntu-desktop.
>>>
>>> XFS should be no problem.
>>>
>>> What do you mean with login option?
>>
>> KDE and Gnome are far from equal IMO.
>
> Not at all what was said. The comparison was against the [K]Ubuntu
> distros.

Was it? I thought he was talking about KDE and Gnome. Apologies if
there was a misunderstanding. But having said
that, I had real trouble with the kubuntu distro install because of
issues with the wireless lan GUI interface : had no such issues with
the Gnome utility to set up WEP extra which the Ubuntu install
defaulted to.

>
>> One is not necessarily better
>> though : depends what you want. Since the "desktop" is the GUI to the
>> tools you will use to do a productive job then then things are very
>> different as are the installed applications.
>>
>> On my machine KDE was unstable unfortunately which is unfortunate
>> because I prefer KDE over Gnome from what Ive seen as a general
>> rule.
>
> So run your KDE apps under Gnome and see if your stability issues are
> still there.
>

I do : no problems. Having said that I havent been switching between
sessions as much as I was and have regressed to default video drivers
with no HW 3d.

--
"A desk is a dangerous place from which to view the world" - LeCarre.