Something on my system insists on adding gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r5
whenever I do "emerge -uD world". I don't use the Gentoo kernel (and
I'm using a 2.6 kernel anyway) so I don't need this package. However,
if I unmerge it, it just shows up again next time.

How can I determine which of my many packages has this as a dependency?

In alt.os.linux.gentoo, micromoog uttered the immortal words:

> Something on my system insists on adding gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r5
> whenever I do "emerge -uD world". I don't use the Gentoo kernel (and
> I'm using a 2.6 kernel anyway) so I don't need this package. However,
> if I unmerge it, it just shows up again next time.
>
> How can I determine which of my many packages has this as a dependency?

Nothing usually depends on a kernel package directly. It looks like Portage
thinks an older gentoo-sources package is installed.

What is the output of "equery list gentoo-sources"? You need gentoolkit
installed to use equery.

--
Andy.

Andy Fraser wrote:
> In alt.os.linux.gentoo, micromoog uttered the immortal words:
>
> > Something on my system insists on adding gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r5
> > whenever I do "emerge -uD world". I don't use the Gentoo kernel
(and
> > I'm using a 2.6 kernel anyway) so I don't need this package.
However,
> > if I unmerge it, it just shows up again next time.
> >
> > How can I determine which of my many packages has this as a
dependency?
>
> Nothing usually depends on a kernel package directly. It looks like
Portage
> thinks an older gentoo-sources package is installed.
>
> What is the output of "equery list gentoo-sources"? You need
gentoolkit
> installed to use equery.
>
> --
> Andy.


Nothing from the equery:

[~]# equery list gentoo-sources
Searching for package 'gentoo-sources' in all categories among:
* installed packages
[~]#


and when I do "emerge -uDp world", the line for this package shows it
as new:

[~]# emerge -uDp world |grep sources
[ebuild N ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r5
[~]#

In alt.os.linux.gentoo, micromoog uttered the immortal words:

>> What is the output of "equery list gentoo-sources"? You need
> gentoolkit
>> installed to use equery.

> Nothing from the equery:
>
> [~]# equery list gentoo-sources
> Searching for package 'gentoo-sources' in all categories among:
> * installed packages
> [~]#

Then try "equery depends gentoo-sources" and see if anything crawls out.

--
Andy.

micromoog wrote:
> Andy Fraser wrote:
> > In alt.os.linux.gentoo, micromoog uttered the immortal words:
> >
> > > Something on my system insists on adding gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r5
> > > whenever I do "emerge -uD world". I don't use the Gentoo kernel
> (and
> > > I'm using a 2.6 kernel anyway) so I don't need this package.
> However,
> > > if I unmerge it, it just shows up again next time.
> > >
> > > How can I determine which of my many packages has this as a
> dependency?
> >
> > Nothing usually depends on a kernel package directly. It looks like
> Portage
> > thinks an older gentoo-sources package is installed.
> >
> > What is the output of "equery list gentoo-sources"? You need
> gentoolkit
> > installed to use equery.
> >
> > --
> > Andy.
>
>
> Nothing from the equery:
>
> [~]# equery list gentoo-sources
> Searching for package 'gentoo-sources' in all categories among:
> * installed packages
> [~]#
>
>
> and when I do "emerge -uDp world", the line for this package shows it
> as new:
>
> [~]# emerge -uDp world |grep sources
> [ebuild N ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r5
> [~]#



OK, I figured out from context that it's "alsa-driver" that wants
"gentoo-sources":


[~]# emerge -p alsa-driver

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild N ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r5
[ebuild U ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.8_rc1 [1.0.5a]
[ebuild NS ] media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8_rc1


.. . . and looking into media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8_rc1.ebuild
reveals:

DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
sys-devel/patch
virtual/linux-sources
>=sys-devel/autoconf-2.50
sys-apps/debianutils"



So, why? and is there anything I can do about it?

Andy Fraser wrote:
> In alt.os.linux.gentoo, micromoog uttered the immortal words:
>
> >> What is the output of "equery list gentoo-sources"? You need
> > gentoolkit
> >> installed to use equery.
>
> > Nothing from the equery:
> >
> > [~]# equery list gentoo-sources
> > Searching for package 'gentoo-sources' in all categories among:
> > * installed packages
> > [~]#
>
> Then try "equery depends gentoo-sources" and see if anything crawls
out.
>
> --
> Andy.


Strangely, nothing did crawl out, even though it looks like
"alsa-driver" depends on it (see my other most recent post).

micromoog wrote:
> micromoog wrote:
> > Andy Fraser wrote:
> > > In alt.os.linux.gentoo, micromoog uttered the immortal words:
> > >
> > > > Something on my system insists on adding
gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r5
> > > > whenever I do "emerge -uD world". I don't use the Gentoo
kernel
> > (and
> > > > I'm using a 2.6 kernel anyway) so I don't need this package.
> > However,
> > > > if I unmerge it, it just shows up again next time.
> > > >
> > > > How can I determine which of my many packages has this as a
> > dependency?
> > >
> > > Nothing usually depends on a kernel package directly. It looks
like
> > Portage
> > > thinks an older gentoo-sources package is installed.
> > >
> > > What is the output of "equery list gentoo-sources"? You need
> > gentoolkit
> > > installed to use equery.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andy.
> >
> >
> > Nothing from the equery:
> >
> > [~]# equery list gentoo-sources
> > Searching for package 'gentoo-sources' in all categories among:
> > * installed packages
> > [~]#
> >
> >
> > and when I do "emerge -uDp world", the line for this package shows
it
> > as new:
> >
> > [~]# emerge -uDp world |grep sources
> > [ebuild N ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r5
> > [~]#
>
>
>
> OK, I figured out from context that it's "alsa-driver" that wants
> "gentoo-sources":
>
>
> [~]# emerge -p alsa-driver
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild N ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r5
> [ebuild U ] media-sound/alsa-headers-1.0.8_rc1 [1.0.5a]
> [ebuild NS ] media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8_rc1
>
>
> . . . and looking into media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.8_rc1.ebuild
> reveals:
>
> DEPEND="${RDEPEND}
> sys-devel/patch
> virtual/linux-sources
> >=sys-devel/autoconf-2.50
> sys-apps/debianutils"
>
>
>
> So, why? and is there anything I can do about it?



And, as sometimes happens, once someone got me pointed in the right
direction, I found my answer here:


http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/migration-to-2.6.xml

"Some Linux 2.4 users will have previously installed the alsa-driver
package to benefit from the new audio capabilities included in Linux
2.6. If you were one of these users, and you followed the advice given
earlier in this document about building ALSA with the 2.6 kernel
sources (as opposed to using the alsa-driver package), then you can
safely remove this to prevent future conflicts."


So, I don't need the alsa-driver package at all, and will remove it
posthaste.

Thanks, Andy.

In alt.os.linux.gentoo, micromoog uttered the immortal words:

[snip]
> "Some Linux 2.4 users will have previously installed the alsa-driver
> package to benefit from the new audio capabilities included in Linux
> 2.6. If you were one of these users, and you followed the advice given
> earlier in this document about building ALSA with the 2.6 kernel
> sources (as opposed to using the alsa-driver package), then you can
> safely remove this to prevent future conflicts."
>
>
> So, I don't need the alsa-driver package at all, and will remove it
> posthaste.

My next thought was alsa-driver. :-)

> Thanks, Andy.

I don't think I did anything there.

--
Andy.

OK, now that I've poked around some, my question gets harder: I need
various ALSA-related things for a lot of software I use. For example,
jack-audio-connection-kit. However, emerging just that package leads
me back to the beginning:

jack-audio-connection-kit depends on alsa-lib
which depends on alsa-driver
which depends on gentoo-sources.

So, my new, harder question: assuming jack-audio-connection-kit is a
hard requirement for me, is it possible for me to manage my own kernel
entirely and not have a kernel in my installed Portage tree, or do I
have to have some kernel or another in there just to make Portage
happy?

I've tried "emerge -i sys-kernel/development-sources-2.6.10-r1" to
inject a stub (which works), but then attempting to emerge jack still
insists on getting the 2.4 tree (via the dependency chain above).

micromoog wrote:
> OK, now that I've poked around some, my question gets harder: I need
> various ALSA-related things for a lot of software I use. For
example,
> jack-audio-connection-kit. However, emerging just that package leads
> me back to the beginning:
>
> jack-audio-connection-kit depends on alsa-lib
> which depends on alsa-driver
> which depends on gentoo-sources.
>
> So, my new, harder question: assuming jack-audio-connection-kit is a
> hard requirement for me, is it possible for me to manage my own
kernel
> entirely and not have a kernel in my installed Portage tree, or do I
> have to have some kernel or another in there just to make Portage
> happy?
>
> I've tried "emerge -i sys-kernel/development-sources-2.6.10-r1" to
> inject a stub (which works), but then attempting to emerge jack still
> insists on getting the 2.4 tree (via the dependency chain above).



OK, more talking to myself: I was able to "solve" the problem with

emerge -i sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.4.28-r5

Now I can emerge jack, alsa, etc. to my heart's content without having
the vanilla 2.4 sources added.

This seems like a nasty hack, though, and I wonder if it'll hold up
forever or if I'll have to inject a newer gentoo-sources at some point
in the future.