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Old 02-21-2008, 10:20 AM
oldNbald
 
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Andy Fraser wrote:

> I then went through every menu item and made my
> choices that way.

[..]

Think I'll relax a bit - stop worrying about having it _perfect_ the first
go around - and pick my through.

Thank you.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:20 AM
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micromoog wrote:
[snipped many good things]

Like those ideas and the script, micromoog. In fact, I've gleaned many
useful things from you _all_ in this thread. When I get a kernel compiled,
I'll report back here. Should I need help, I'll post specifics.

Am using this opportunity to say thank you to each for helping.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:20 AM
Leif B. Kristensen
 
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oldNbald skrev:

> Albert wrote:
>
>> Just for information, how big is your kernel ?
>>
>> Mine (iee1394, usb) is
>>
>> 2411873 : kernel-2.6.10-gentoo-r4
>> 1272222 : initrd-2.6.10-gentoo-r4

>
> Mine or Klien's? Well, since you've gone ahead and shown me yours,
> I'll show you mine <g>:
>
> 2,035,279 kernel-2.6.9-gentoo-r4
> 1,506,893 initrd-2.6.9-gentoo-r4


Here's my totally monolithic and hand-configured kernel with SMP,
3com905, ati-drivers, emu10k1, alsa, framebuffer and some usb stuff,
reiserfs, CD/DVD-rw, NTFS & joliet support:

2384030 kernel-2.6.10-gentoo-r6

no modules, no initrd. And it Just Works[TM] -- although my first
kernels didn't. Took me several months with some more or less
half-hearted tries until I got the hang of it. But a printer dump of
lspci output is a great help.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:20 AM
Andy Fraser
 
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oldNbald wrote:

>> I then went through every menu item and made my
>>choices that way.

>
> [..]
>
> Think I'll relax a bit - stop worrying about having it _perfect_ the first
> go around - and pick my through.


The beauty of compiling a kernel with only the things you need is it
only takes 5 - 10 mins (depending on your hardware) to compile so if you
mess up you're not going to have to wait ages to compile in what you
missed. :-)

By getting the compile time right down I'm now more prone to experiment
which could be seen as a bad thing. ;-)

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Old 02-21-2008, 10:20 AM
jim
 
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oldNbald wrote:

> What I'd *really* like to be able to do - and believe to be the proof "I
> can do Linux" jump - is compile a working kernel with full hardware
> support - audio, net connection, firewall and CD burning, et al first go
> 'round.

snip
There is some pretty good advice about things that are definitely needed in
the Gentoo handbook. Other than that, as a way of getting where you want
to be, you can use the genkernel config as a base and start wacking things
you don't think you need. Keep a list of what you delete, and when
something breaks, you have a good idea of what it might be.
You can get a pretty good idea of what modules you need by what is loaded
when you use genkernel.
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Old 02-21-2008, 10:20 AM
Johan Lindquist
 
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So anyway, it was like, 20:36 CET Feb 17 2005, you know? Oh, and, yeah,

> make xconfig;make install;make
> modules_install;./update_kernel.sh;shutdown -r now


You might want to replace those semicolons with && to be on the safe
side. If one of the steps in that sequence fails, you probably don't
want the box to reboot, for instance.

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Old 02-21-2008, 10:20 AM
Johan Lindquist
 
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So anyway, it was like, 01:19 CET Feb 18 2005, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
oldNbald was all like, "Dude,
> Albert wrote:


>> 2411873 : kernel-2.6.10-gentoo-r4
>> 1272222 : initrd-2.6.10-gentoo-r4


> 2,035,279 kernel-2.6.9-gentoo-r4
> 1,506,893 initrd-2.6.9-gentoo-r4


Not sure what all y'all need that initrd for, but since everyone else
is showing theirs:

P4 (desktop):
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1203131 Feb 17 14:44 vmlinuz-2.6.11-rc4
6.4M /lib/modules/2.6.11-rc4

AMD64 (server):
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1253146 Oct 20 23:39 vmlinuz-2.6.9
7.4M /lib/modules/2.6.9

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Old 02-21-2008, 10:20 AM
Claes Wikstrom
 
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On 2005-02-18, Johan Lindquist <spam@smilfinken.net> wrote:
> So anyway, it was like, 20:36 CET Feb 17 2005, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
>
>> make xconfig;make install;make
>> modules_install;./update_kernel.sh;shutdown -r now

>
> You might want to replace those semicolons with && to be on the safe
> side.



It's also a pretty good idea to actually install the kernel
not just copy it to /boot


/klacke


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Old 02-21-2008, 10:20 AM
Johan Lindquist
 
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So anyway, it was like, 11:05 CET Feb 18 2005, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
Claes Wikstrom was all like, "Dude,
> On 2005-02-18, Johan Lindquist <spam@smilfinken.net> wrote:
>> So anyway, it was like, 20:36 CET Feb 17 2005, you know? Oh, and, yeah,


>>> make xconfig;make install;make
>>> modules_install;./update_kernel.sh;shutdown -r now

>>
>> You might want to replace those semicolons with && to be on the
>> safe side.

>
> It's also a pretty good idea to actually install the kernel not just
> copy it to /boot


By "installing" you refer to configuring lilo or grub, I guess? If
someone always uses the same name for the images (perhaps renaming the
current one to foo.old would be a part of the shell script in that
case), the "installation" part would indeed be the copying.

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Old 02-21-2008, 10:20 AM
Johan Lindquist
 
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So anyway, it was like, 11:13 CET Feb 18 2005, you know? Oh, and, yeah,
Johan Lindquist was all like, "Dude,

> the "installation" part would indeed be the copying.


Well, except for lilo. D'oh. If anyone wants me, I'll be in the corner
wearing a pointy hat.

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