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Old 04-20-2008, 05:29 PM
Martin Fuerderer
 
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Default Re: Level 0 to a file.

Hi,

large file (> 2 GB) support for utilities (ontape, onunload/onload,
dbexport/dbimport, etc.) depends somewhat on the version of
IDS and in some versions even on the OS platform.

I think in IDS 9.40 and newer, large file support is implemented
on all platforms, at least the UNIX and Linux flavours.

With large file (> 2 GB) support, 330 GB should be safe.

With this size of data/backup, you may want to look into
external backup/restore and the mirror-splitting method.
I described this with some more detail in a developerWorks
article:

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/db...rer/index.html

in section "External backup and advanced storage techniques".

Regards,
Martin
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informix-list-bounces@iiug.org wrote on 08.11.2007 14:43:43:

> Hi all,
>
> I have an Informix DB server where in backups is taken to a file using
> ontape utility.
> Total size is around 330 GB. Unix Large files enabled here. Backups
> are successful using ontape.
> Customer not willing to invest on onbar/veritas solution.
>
> My question: Is there a limit for taking backup to file?
> I can't test the restore. Will the restore successful if required?
>
> Backup takes around 2 days to finish. How to make the backup complete
> faster?
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> With Best regards,
> Jo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Informix-list mailing list
> Informix-list@iiug.org
> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list


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Old 04-20-2008, 05:29 PM
Paul Watson
 
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Default Re: Level 0 to a file.

Martin Fuerderer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> large file (> 2 GB) support for utilities (ontape, onunload/onload,
> dbexport/dbimport, etc.) depends somewhat on the version of
> IDS and in some versions even on the OS platform.
>
> I think in IDS 9.40 and newer, large file support is implemented
> on all platforms, at least the UNIX and Linux flavours.
>
> With large file (> 2 GB) support, 330 GB should be safe.
>
> With this size of data/backup, you may want to look into
> external backup/restore and the mirror-splitting method.
> I described this with some more detail in a developerWorks
> article:
>
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/db...rer/index.html
>
> in section "External backup and advanced storage techniques".
>
> Regards,
> Martin
> --
> Martin Fuerderer
> IBM Informix Development Munich, Germany
> Information Management
>
> IBM Deutschland GmbH
> Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Hans Ulrich Märki
> Board of Management: Martin Jetter (Chairman), Rudolf Bauer, Christian
> Diedrich, Christoph Grandpierre, Matthias Hartmann, Thomas Fell, Michael
> Diemer
> Corporate Seat: Stuttgart, Germany; Reg.-Gericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart,
> HRB-Nr.: 14 562 WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 99369940
>
>
> informix-list-bounces@iiug.org wrote on 08.11.2007 14:43:43:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have an Informix DB server where in backups is taken to a file using
>> ontape utility.
>> Total size is around 330 GB. Unix Large files enabled here. Backups
>> are successful using ontape.
>> Customer not willing to invest on onbar/veritas solution.
>>
>> My question: Is there a limit for taking backup to file?
>> I can't test the restore. Will the restore successful if required?
>>
>> Backup takes around 2 days to finish. How to make the backup complete
>> faster?
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> With Best regards,
>> Jo
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Informix-list mailing list
>> Informix-list@iiug.org
>> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

>


If you are gzip'ing the file then lots of smaller files seems to give a
shorter overall backup time i.e you can gzip 10x 2GB faster than you can
gzip 1x 20GB.


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Mob: +1 913-387-7529
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If you want to improve, be content to be thought foolish and stupid.

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Old 04-20-2008, 05:29 PM
Paul Watson
 
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Default Re: Level 0 to a file.

Martin Fuerderer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> large file (> 2 GB) support for utilities (ontape, onunload/onload,
> dbexport/dbimport, etc.) depends somewhat on the version of
> IDS and in some versions even on the OS platform.
>
> I think in IDS 9.40 and newer, large file support is implemented
> on all platforms, at least the UNIX and Linux flavours.
>
> With large file (> 2 GB) support, 330 GB should be safe.
>
> With this size of data/backup, you may want to look into
> external backup/restore and the mirror-splitting method.
> I described this with some more detail in a developerWorks
> article:
>
> http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/db...rer/index.html
>
> in section "External backup and advanced storage techniques".
>
> Regards,
> Martin
> --
> Martin Fuerderer
> IBM Informix Development Munich, Germany
> Information Management
>
> IBM Deutschland GmbH
> Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Hans Ulrich Märki
> Board of Management: Martin Jetter (Chairman), Rudolf Bauer, Christian
> Diedrich, Christoph Grandpierre, Matthias Hartmann, Thomas Fell, Michael
> Diemer
> Corporate Seat: Stuttgart, Germany; Reg.-Gericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart,
> HRB-Nr.: 14 562 WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 99369940
>
>
> informix-list-bounces@iiug.org wrote on 08.11.2007 14:43:43:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have an Informix DB server where in backups is taken to a file using
>> ontape utility.
>> Total size is around 330 GB. Unix Large files enabled here. Backups
>> are successful using ontape.
>> Customer not willing to invest on onbar/veritas solution.
>>
>> My question: Is there a limit for taking backup to file?
>> I can't test the restore. Will the restore successful if required?
>>
>> Backup takes around 2 days to finish. How to make the backup complete
>> faster?
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> With Best regards,
>> Jo
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Informix-list mailing list
>> Informix-list@iiug.org
>> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

>


If you are gzip'ing the file then lots of smaller files seems to give a
shorter overall backup time i.e you can gzip 10x 2GB faster than you can
gzip 1x 20GB.


--
Paul Watson
Tel: +1 913-400-2620
Mob: +1 913-387-7529
Web: www.oninit.com

Failure is not as frightening as regret.
If you want to improve, be content to be thought foolish and stupid.


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Old 04-20-2008, 05:29 PM
Upsidedown Head
 
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On 8 Nov, 15:08, Paul Watson <p...@oninit.com> wrote:
> Martin Fuerderer wrote:
> > Hi,

>
> > large file (> 2 GB) support for utilities (ontape, onunload/onload,
> > dbexport/dbimport, etc.) depends somewhat on the version of
> > IDS and in some versions even on the OS platform.

>
> > I think in IDS 9.40 and newer, large file support is implemented
> > on all platforms, at least the UNIX and Linux flavours.

>
> > With large file (> 2 GB) support, 330 GB should be safe.

>
> > With this size of data/backup, you may want to look into
> > external backup/restore and the mirror-splitting method.
> > I described this with some more detail in a developerWorks
> > article:

>
> >http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/db...le/dm-0503fuer...

>
> > in section "External backup and advanced storage techniques".

>
> > Regards,
> > Martin
> > --
> > Martin Fuerderer
> > IBM Informix Development Munich, Germany
> > Information Management

>
> > IBM Deutschland GmbH
> > Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Hans Ulrich Märki
> > Board of Management: Martin Jetter (Chairman), Rudolf Bauer, Christian
> > Diedrich, Christoph Grandpierre, Matthias Hartmann, Thomas Fell, Michael
> > Diemer
> > Corporate Seat: Stuttgart, Germany; Reg.-Gericht: Amtsgericht Stuttgart,
> > HRB-Nr.: 14 562 WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 99369940

>
> > informix-list-boun...@iiug.org wrote on 08.11.2007 14:43:43:

>
> >> Hi all,

>
> >> I have an Informix DB server where in backups is taken to a file using
> >> ontape utility.
> >> Total size is around 330 GB. Unix Large files enabled here. Backups
> >> are successful using ontape.
> >> Customer not willing to invest on onbar/veritas solution.

>
> >> My question: Is there a limit for taking backup to file?
> >> I can't test the restore. Will the restore successful if required?

>
> >> Backup takes around 2 days to finish. How to make the backup complete
> >> faster?

>
> >> Thank you,

>
> >> With Best regards,
> >> Jo

>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Informix-list mailing list
> >> Informix-l...@iiug.org
> >>http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

>
> If you are gzip'ing the file then lots of smaller files seems to give a
> shorter overall backup time i.e you can gzip 10x 2GB faster than you can
> gzip 1x 20GB.
>
> --
> Paul Watson
> Tel: +1 913-400-2620
> Mob: +1 913-387-7529
> Web:www.oninit.com
>
> Failure is not as frightening as regret.
> If you want to improve, be content to be thought foolish and stupid.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Also be mindful of where your database and backup storage space are
located on the server's storage subsystem if you are really interested
in improving the
backup's performance as using the same controller / disks to do the
disk backup and compression as you are using for the database itself
will cause more I/O contention.

Make sure your I/O is monitored at an OS level to ensure you give
yourself the best possible chance of decreasing the backup window.

I hope this helps.

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