begin On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:03:58 -0700, antilis wrote:

[top posting correction]

>
> antilis wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> I just installed Red Hat 9 in my computer. Installation process was
>> successful. After rebooting the machine, as it asked for login(which is
>> su)and password (the root password which I had enetered while
>> installation), I typed all correctly, but the it won't log me in.
>>
>> I turned off the machine and installed the software again, and same
>> problem. It won't log me in. I wrote down my password when I entered
>> during installtion process in case I forget the password. But I did
>> type the correct and same root password at the prompt.
>>
>> Any help and suggestion would be appreciated.
>>
>> Antilis

> Thank you very much all of you for your support and help. I was able to
> log in finally.
>
> NEW PROBLEM:
> -------------
>
> I have a new problem now. Probably it would seem as 'my ignorance' to
> other people which I will accept as a blame.
>
> After I logged in as root and with correct password, I got a propmt
> [root@localhost root]# which seems to me normal. But how can I get
> into the all the fun of GUI that Red Hat offers. Is there anyway I can
> get into that? any command? or do I have to make any changes?
>
> Thank you all once again for your help
>
> antilis

Don't Top post

Try startx
or init 5

If you want to make it to boot that what then fix /etc/inittab

man init

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begin On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:46:24 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:


> "Baho Utot" <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> newsan.2005.07.23.13.08.13.513107@columbus.rr.co m...
>
>> begin On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:43:52 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>
>> Maybe microsoft needs to fix their problems instead of forcing others
>> into a corner.
>
> Maybe Linux supporters shouldn't deliberately try to break things for
> other people for no good reason? The "corner" in question is using
> uuencode-like text for a message that is in fact flat text.

Who's "deliberately try to break things" I am only marking the beginning
of my posts.

BTW
Why don't other news readers have the same problem?
If your news reader is broke then you need to fix your problem not have
everyone else do it for you. That's what I would do.

This is a internet usenet group, you have to take the text as it comes.

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begin On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:46:24 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia
wrote:

> "Baho Utot" <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> newsan.2005.07.23.13.08.13.513107@columbus.rr.co m...

> Maybe Linux supporters shouldn't deliberately try to break
things for
> other people for no good reason? The "corner" in question is
using
> uuencode-like text for a message that is in fact flat text.

Who's "deliberately try to break things" I am only marking the
beginning
of my posts.

You're using an inappropriate syntax, the "begin" tag, that comes from a
pretty specific source, the old uuencode attachment formats. You're
neglecting to put in the name or type of the expected attachment file,
you're neglecting to put in an end tag, and performing other little
breakages.

Why don't other news readers have the same problem?
If your news reader is broke then you need to fix your problem not have
everyone else do it for you. That's what I would do.

That's nice. Let's see, there are maybe two people on Usenet that I've
noticed doing this, and so far as I know they have no techinical investment
in doing their responses this way. There are many millions of installed
copies of Windows and its matching mail clients, which are admittedly way
over-aggressive in trying to decode attachments and URL's and things but
which many of their users have gotten used to and the upgrade process to
repair it is lengthy, painful, and risky.

Which do you think will be easier to do?

This is a internet usenet group, you have to take the text as it comes.

Hey, if you want to communicate and be heard by an audience that will
guarenteed contain newbies, you have to speak a language they'll understand.
For me, it's merely pesky when I read from home on my games machine. For
others, it'll keep them from seeing any responses you write. You choose
whether the rather odd syntax of your replies is more important to you than
having your document read by some folks.

In comp.os.linux.setup Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@comcast.net>:

[blah]

> That's nice. Let's see, there are maybe two people on Usenet that I've
> noticed doing this, and so far as I know they have no techinical investment
> in doing their responses this way. There are many millions of installed
> copies of Windows and its matching mail clients, which are admittedly way
> over-aggressive in trying to decode attachments and URL's and things but
> which many of their users have gotten used to and the upgrade process to
> repair it is lengthy, painful, and risky.

Nico!

Already pointed out to your (<nlr9r2-7en.ln1@news.heiming.de>) in
this thread that there's an update announced to fix the bug
available from M$ for your beloved Outcrap, go get it and stop
whining. If upgrading a MTA is so difficult, I'd suggest simply
installing a real OS, which comes with dozens working nntp
reader, Linux would be my first choice.

Good luck

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begin On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:11:23 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

[putulin]

>
> You're using an inappropriate syntax, the "begin" tag, that comes from a
> pretty specific source, the old uuencode attachment formats. You're
> neglecting to put in the name or type of the expected attachment file,
> you're neglecting to put in an end tag, and performing other little
> breakages.

I am not using a syntax of any kind. It is only pure ascii text is it not?


>
> Why don't other news readers have the same problem?
> If your news reader is broke then you need to fix your problem not have
> everyone else do it for you. That's what I would do.
>
> That's nice. Let's see, there are maybe two people on Usenet that I've
> noticed doing this, and so far as I know they have no techinical investment
> in doing their responses this way. There are many millions of installed
> copies of Windows and its matching mail clients, which are admittedly way
> over-aggressive in trying to decode attachments and URL's and things but
> which many of their users have gotten used to and the upgrade process to
> repair it is lengthy, painful, and risky.

Who cares about windows? I certainly don't. If they are using a broken
news reader so be it. It matters not to me.
So why is this my problem. Oh I see it isn't.

>
> Which do you think will be easier to do?
>
> This is a internet usenet group, you have to take the text as it comes.
>
> Hey, if you want to communicate and be heard by an audience that will
> guarenteed contain newbies, you have to speak a language they'll understand.
> For me, it's merely pesky when I read from home on my games machine. For
> others, it'll keep them from seeing any responses you write. You choose
> whether the rather odd syntax of your replies is more important to you than
> having your document read by some folks.

Again it doesn't matter one hoot to me. If they can not read my post they
can ignore it or fix the bastardized news reader. Which one they do I
care not. I speak the language I know which here is Philippine English.

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"Michael Heiming" <michael+USENET@www.heiming.de> wrote in message
news:ciocr2-14q.ln1@news.heiming.de...
> Nico!
>
> Already pointed out to your (<nlr9r2-7en.ln1@news.heiming.de>) in
> this thread that there's an update announced to fix the bug
> available from M$ for your beloved Outcrap, go get it and stop
> whining. If upgrading a MTA is so difficult, I'd suggest simply
> installing a real OS, which comes with dozens working nntp
> reader, Linux would be my first choice.

Try again. I'm not using Outlook, and waving a magic wand of "there's a
patch" without actually pointing it is less than helpful even if I were..

Baho writes:

> You're using an inappropriate syntax, the "begin" tag, that comes from
a
> pretty specific source, the old uuencode attachment formats. You're
> neglecting to put in the name or type of the expected attachment file,
> you're neglecting to put in an end tag, and performing other little
> breakages.

I am not using a syntax of any kind. It is only pure ascii text is it
not?

What? *OF COURSE* it's a syntax, it's a format for sending information,
just as sentences, paragraphs, MIME attachments, and email headers all have
their own syntax. And they're all still ASCII, despite the attempts of some
to push it to Unicode.

Who cares about windows? I certainly don't. If they are using a broken
news reader so be it. It matters not to me.
So why is this my problem. Oh I see it isn't.

Then people you may wish to speak with, such as newbies to Linux who need
help, will have difficulty reading what you write.

Again it doesn't matter one hoot to me. If they can not read my post
they
can ignore it or fix the bastardized news reader. Which one they do I
care not. I speak the language I know which here is Philippine English.

If it doesn't matter one hoot to you, then why are you writing anything in
the first place? If you didn't care at all, you wouldn't write anything.
Now, if you cared a teeny tiny bit about helping other people easily read
your material, you'd use a different line for demarking the beginning of
your responses, as almost all other NNTP clients do. You're the one whose
responses will not be seen.

In comp.os.linux.setup Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@comcast.net>:

> "Michael Heiming" <michael+USENET@www.heiming.de> wrote in message
> news:ciocr2-14q.ln1@news.heiming.de...
>> Nico!
>>
>> Already pointed out to your (<nlr9r2-7en.ln1@news.heiming.de>) in
>> this thread that there's an update announced to fix the bug
>> available from M$ for your beloved Outcrap, go get it and stop
>> whining. If upgrading a MTA is so difficult, I'd suggest simply
>> installing a real OS, which comes with dozens working nntp
>> reader, Linux would be my first choice.

> Try again. I'm not using Outlook, and waving a magic wand of "there's a

Why should I, just go back to the mail the problem occurred with
your Outcrap, my newsreader works!

> patch" without actually pointing it is less than helpful even if I were..

And you really expect me, to find out the URL for you to fix your
broken M$ Outcrap in a *Linux* newsgroup, even if you IIRC just
need to start windoze update and click/boot a few times?

Really, don't read answers this crude every day. Seems to make
sense to just kill-file you at be done?

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begin On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 07:32:41 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

> Baho writes:
>
> > You're using an inappropriate syntax, the "begin" tag, that comes from
> a
> > pretty specific source, the old uuencode attachment formats. You're
> > neglecting to put in the name or type of the expected attachment file,
> > you're neglecting to put in an end tag, and performing other little
> > breakages.
>
> I am not using a syntax of any kind. It is only pure ascii text is it
> not?
>
> What? *OF COURSE* it's a syntax, it's a format for sending information,
> just as sentences, paragraphs, MIME attachments, and email headers all have
> their own syntax. And they're all still ASCII, despite the attempts of some
> to push it to Unicode.

So are you saying it is now illegal to use begin in the English language
because it is now a syntax?

Can you point me to the place that has the documentation that it is
forbiden to start your post with begin?

Perhaps an RFC will do.

>
> Who cares about windows? I certainly don't. If they are using a broken
> news reader so be it. It matters not to me.
> So why is this my problem. Oh I see it isn't.
>
> Then people you may wish to speak with, such as newbies to Linux who need
> help, will have difficulty reading what you write.
>

Not if they use a proper news client. There are lots available. Why
limit yourself to broken software?

> Again it doesn't matter one hoot to me. If they can not read my post
> they
> can ignore it or fix the bastardized news reader. Which one they do I
> care not. I speak the language I know which here is Philippine English.
>
> If it doesn't matter one hoot to you, then why are you writing anything in
> the first place? If you didn't care at all, you wouldn't write anything.

How so

> Now, if you cared a teeny tiny bit about helping other people easily
> read your material, you'd use a different line for demarking the
> beginning of your responses, as almost all other NNTP clients do. You're
> the one whose responses will not be seen.

So, why does it bother you

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"Michael Heiming" <michael+USENET@www.heiming.de> wrote in message
news:aclhr2-slm.ln1@news.heiming.de...
> In comp.os.linux.setup Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel@comcast.net>:
>
>> "Michael Heiming" <michael+USENET@www.heiming.de> wrote in message
>> news:ciocr2-14q.ln1@news.heiming.de...
>>> Nico!
>>>
>>> Already pointed out to your (<nlr9r2-7en.ln1@news.heiming.de>) in
>>> this thread that there's an update announced to fix the bug
>>> available from M$ for your beloved Outcrap, go get it and stop
>>> whining. If upgrading a MTA is so difficult, I'd suggest simply
>>> installing a real OS, which comes with dozens working nntp
>>> reader, Linux would be my first choice.
>
>> Try again. I'm not using Outlook, and waving a magic wand of "there's a
>
> Why should I, just go back to the mail the problem occurred with
> your Outcrap, my newsreader works!

That's nice. I'm using Outlook Express on my games box. There's a *HUGE*
difference between the two, especially in the ability to correctly do
message quoting with the "OE-Quotefix", and in security.

>> patch" without actually pointing it is less than helpful even if I were..
>
> And you really expect me, to find out the URL for you to fix your
> broken M$ Outcrap in a *Linux* newsgroup, even if you IIRC just
> need to start windoze update and click/boot a few times?

No, I expect you to cite something you claim exists, which apparently
doesn't.

> Really, don't read answers this crude every day. Seems to make
> sense to just kill-file you at be done?

Too bad. You usually make more sense than this. I've let you know of a
problem in your email that will interfere with plenty of Linux newbies or
people like myself who use multiple OS's seeing your content. You can choose
to be snide and righteous about how "right" your way of posting is, or not,
but using the kind of "begin" statement for your responses will continue to
interfere with your legibility.