Hi,

What is a database developer, especially ORACLE databse developer in
..net environment? My impression of a database developer is one that can
write stored procedure. Or is a database developer just a programmer
(ASP, C##, etc.) who can also code stored procedures? Thanks for
enlightening!


Mike

"Mike" <matezuka@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1128789989.219091.319230@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com:

> Hi,
>
> What is a database developer, especially ORACLE databse developer in
> .net environment? My impression of a database developer is one that can
> write stored procedure. Or is a database developer just a programmer
> (ASP, C##, etc.) who can also code stored procedures? Thanks for
> enlightening!
>
>
> Mike
>
>

It depends.

It depends upon who is asking, their background & application environment.

Some folks might assert that an Oracle developer knows how to use Oracle
Forms & Reports.

Mike wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What is a database developer, especially ORACLE databse developer in
> .net environment? My impression of a database developer is one that can
> write stored procedure. Or is a database developer just a programmer
> (ASP, C##, etc.) who can also code stored procedures? Thanks for
> enlightening!
>
>
> Mike
>
I'd suggest a database developer is a developer that develops database
driven applications. A good one will know which tool to use when to
accomplish their goals. By definition that would include understanding
SQL and PL/SQL as well as the client/mid-tier application development
languages.

--
Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA
http://www.niall.litchfield.dial.pipex.com

Mike wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What is a database developer, especially ORACLE databse developer in
> .net environment?
>
> Mike

Frustrated.

--
Daniel A. Morgan
http://www.psoug.org
damorgan@x.washington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)

As other people noted, it depends on where you are, what you know, if
the organization you are working for actually has a clue about training
people and some kind of methodology for how applications are developed.

Too often a database developer just throws some kind of microsoft tool
or ugly java/php code against oracle. Not always their fault, but
often a byproduct of the get it done quickly mentality.

I find myself (this time, not a typical thing) in agreement with Mr.
Morgans description "frustrated".

DA Morgan wrote:
> Mike wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What is a database developer, especially ORACLE databse developer in
>> .net environment?
>>
>> Mike
>
>
> Frustrated.
>
any more so than a database developer in the java world?

--
Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA
http://www.niall.litchfield.dial.pipex.com

On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 13:27:11 +0100, Niall Litchfield interested us by
writing:

> DA Morgan wrote:
>> Mike wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What is a database developer, especially ORACLE databse developer in
>>> .net environment?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>> Frustrated.
>>
> any more so than a database developer in the java world?

Java developers don't get frustrated. After all, anyone who has 3279
classes and interfaces to learn (based on j2SE 1.5 API doc) to become
proficient in the basics doesn't have time to be frustrated. Or time to
read the doc and find out how to do things. <g>

--
Hans Forbrich
Canada-wide Oracle training and consulting
mailto: Fuzzy.GreyBeard_at_gmail.com
*** I no longer assist with top-posted newsgroup queries ***

Niall Litchfield wrote:
> DA Morgan wrote:
>
>> Mike wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What is a database developer, especially ORACLE databse developer in
>>> .net environment?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> Frustrated.
>>
> any more so than a database developer in the java world?

Database developers have a far better understanding and respect for
what Java developers do than the other way around.

I know that I have never coded a multi-threaded, multi-layer
application. I don't pretend otherwise. But I've yet to meet
the Java developer that doesn't fully understand that a database
is a bit bucket.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
http://www.psoug.org
damorgan@x.washington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)

>>>
>>>
>>> Frustrated.
>>>
>> any more so than a database developer in the java world?
>
> Java developers don't get frustrated. After all, anyone who has 3279
> classes and interfaces to learn (based on j2SE 1.5 API doc) to become
> proficient in the basics doesn't have time to be frustrated. Or time to
> read the doc and find out how to do things. <g>
>
> --

Couldn't the same be said of Oracle DBA's ? :-)

HansF wrote:
> Java developers don't get frustrated. After all, anyone who has 3279
> classes and interfaces to learn (based on j2SE 1.5 API doc) to become
> proficient in the basics doesn't have time to be frustrated. Or time to
> read the doc and find out how to do things. <g>
>
don't forget all the 42,000 standards out there...

I guess my point was more that I see J2EE and .Net as being frustrating
places to be for database developers, but not one more than the other.

both are frustrating for anyone with a passing familiarity with
relational theory as well.



--
Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA
http://www.niall.litchfield.dial.pipex.com