Hi Folks,

As usual, I'm trying to determine what we need for an up to
date fresh installation of 5.0.7, it's not too easy.

My latest SWIM updates included the following (along with
other media)

License
SCO OpenServer 5.0.7
Enterprise System
Upgrade from OpenServer 5.0.6

License
Merge 5.3
OpenServer 5.0.6+
Server, 5 User

Diskette
SCO Openserver 5.0.7 Licensing Supplement
Part Number OSR-SLS-507a
(It appears to be oss656a)


I'm able to Fresh install 5.0.7 without any problems using
the new upgrade license for 5.0.7 and am wondering in what
order the following should be installed.

- oss656a - Brand(ADM) Update
- oss656b - Licensing Update
- Merge
- Development System
- SMP
- MP1 - Maintenance Pack 1
- UP1 - Update Pack 1
- oss615a - Merge 5 Kernal Update

Also, will our "SCO Openserver Development System" license
still work woth 5.0.7?

Many Thanks!

Marc Champagne

Marc Champagne <news@ctldirect.DOT.com> wrote in message news:<Xns93FE84CF4403BnewsATctldirectDORco@207.35. 177.135>...
> Hi Folks,
>
> As usual, I'm trying to determine what we need for an up to
> date fresh installation of 5.0.7, it's not too easy.
>
> My latest SWIM updates included the following (along with
> other media)
>
> License
> SCO OpenServer 5.0.7
> Enterprise System
> Upgrade from OpenServer 5.0.6
>
> License
> Merge 5.3
> OpenServer 5.0.6+
> Server, 5 User
>
> Diskette
> SCO Openserver 5.0.7 Licensing Supplement
> Part Number OSR-SLS-507a
> (It appears to be oss656a)
>
>
> I'm able to Fresh install 5.0.7 without any problems using
> the new upgrade license for 5.0.7 and am wondering in what
> order the following should be installed.
>
> - oss656a - Brand(ADM) Update
> - oss656b - Licensing Update
> - Merge
> - Development System
> - SMP
> - MP1 - Maintenance Pack 1
> - UP1 - Update Pack 1
> - oss615a - Merge 5 Kernal Update
>
> Also, will our "SCO Openserver Development System" license
> still work woth 5.0.7?

oss656a/b are superceded by MP1 and should not therefore be
installed.

oss615a is not for OpenServer 5.0.7 (it is for earlier
releases of OpenServer like 504/505).

I would install in the following order:

1) SMP (defer licensing)
2) MP1
3) UP1
4) License SMP
5) Merge
6) Dev Kit

The OpenServer 5.0.6 Development System License is supported
on 5.0.7.

John

John Boland wrote:

> Marc Champagne <news@ctldirect.DOT.com> wrote in message news:<Xns93FE84CF4403BnewsATctldirectDORco@207.35. 177.135>...

> > As usual, I'm trying to determine what we need for an up to
> > date fresh installation of 5.0.7, it's not too easy.
> >
> > My latest SWIM updates included the following (along with
> > other media)
> >
> > License
> > SCO OpenServer 5.0.7
> > Enterprise System
> > Upgrade from OpenServer 5.0.6
> >
> > License
> > Merge 5.3
> > OpenServer 5.0.6+
> > Server, 5 User
> >
> > Diskette
> > SCO Openserver 5.0.7 Licensing Supplement
> > Part Number OSR-SLS-507a
> > (It appears to be oss656a)
> >
> > I'm able to Fresh install 5.0.7 without any problems using
> > the new upgrade license for 5.0.7 and am wondering in what
> > order the following should be installed.
> >
> > - oss656a - Brand(ADM) Update
> > - oss656b - Licensing Update
> > - Merge
> > - Development System
> > - SMP
> > - MP1 - Maintenance Pack 1
> > - UP1 - Update Pack 1
> > - oss615a - Merge 5 Kernal Update
> >
> > Also, will our "SCO Openserver Development System" license
> > still work woth 5.0.7?
>
> oss656a/b are superceded by MP1 and should not therefore be
> installed.
>
> oss615a is not for OpenServer 5.0.7 (it is for earlier
> releases of OpenServer like 504/505).
>
> I would install in the following order:
>
> 1) SMP (defer licensing)
> 2) MP1
> 3) UP1
> 4) License SMP
> 5) Merge
> 6) Dev Kit
>
> The OpenServer 5.0.6 Development System License is supported
> on 5.0.7.

OSR507MP1 contains development system updates, so it is best installed
_after_ the development system. However, I do not think it will matter
in this specific case, because the DS updates are only going to apply to
the 507 DS. I'm pretty sure that if Marc installs either in the above
order, or in the more correct order:

SMP
Development System
MP1
UP1

-- He'll end up with an unpatched OSR506 DS. If he used the OSR507 DS,
MP1 would update it further.

What is to be accomplished by deferring the SMP license? I can guess:
OSR507MP1 fixes some SMP bugs which can cause boot failures on some
machines. If that's the case, deferring the license won't help most
machines, but will be significant on some. It also isn't necessary if
you aren't going to reboot between installs. But sometimes reboots are
involuntary (you might trip over the power cord...) so perhaps this is a
wise precaution.

OSR507MP1 and UP1 do not contain Merge updates, so Merge could be
installed various points along the way.

>Bela<

jboland@sco.com (John Boland) wrote in
news:d4ead94.0309230025.5b98d356@posting.google.co m:

> Marc Champagne <news@ctldirect.DOT.com> wrote in message
> news:<Xns93FE84CF4403BnewsATctldirectDORco@207.35. 177.135>..
> .
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> As usual, I'm trying to determine what we need for an up
>> to date fresh installation of 5.0.7, it's not too easy.
>>
>> My latest SWIM updates included the following (along with
>> other media)
>>
>> License
>> SCO OpenServer 5.0.7
>> Enterprise System
>> Upgrade from OpenServer 5.0.6
>>
>> License
>> Merge 5.3
>> OpenServer 5.0.6+
>> Server, 5 User
>>
>> Diskette
>> SCO Openserver 5.0.7 Licensing Supplement
>> Part Number OSR-SLS-507a
>> (It appears to be oss656a)
>>
>>
>> I'm able to Fresh install 5.0.7 without any problems using
>> the new upgrade license for 5.0.7 and am wondering in what
>> order the following should be installed.
>>
>> - oss656a - Brand(ADM) Update
>> - oss656b - Licensing Update
>> - Merge
>> - Development System
>> - SMP
>> - MP1 - Maintenance Pack 1
>> - UP1 - Update Pack 1
>> - oss615a - Merge 5 Kernal Update
>>
>> Also, will our "SCO Openserver Development System" license
>> still work woth 5.0.7?
>
> oss656a/b are superceded by MP1 and should not therefore be
> installed.
>
> oss615a is not for OpenServer 5.0.7 (it is for earlier
> releases of OpenServer like 504/505).

I must of looked for the wrong thing then or found the wrong
thing .

There is a updated Merge that I should use instead of the one
supplied on CD for installing onto 5.0.7., do you know what
it may be?


> I would install in the following order:
>
> 1) SMP (defer licensing)
> 2) MP1
> 3) UP1
> 4) License SMP
> 5) Merge
> 6) Dev Kit

Thanks John!


> The OpenServer 5.0.6 Development System License is
> supported on 5.0.7.

Good!


Thanks again!

Marc Champagne

Bela Lubkin <belal@sco.com> wrote in
news:20030923092713.GZ24551@sco.com:

> John Boland wrote:
>
>> Marc Champagne <news@ctldirect.DOT.com> wrote in message
>> news:<Xns93FE84CF4403BnewsATctldirectDORco@207.35. 177.135>.
>> ..
>
>> > As usual, I'm trying to determine what we need for an up
>> > to date fresh installation of 5.0.7, it's not too easy.
>> >
>> > My latest SWIM updates included the following (along
>> > with other media)
>> >
>> > License
>> > SCO OpenServer 5.0.7
>> > Enterprise System
>> > Upgrade from OpenServer 5.0.6
>> >
>> > License
>> > Merge 5.3
>> > OpenServer 5.0.6+
>> > Server, 5 User
>> >
>> > Diskette
>> > SCO Openserver 5.0.7 Licensing Supplement
>> > Part Number OSR-SLS-507a
>> > (It appears to be oss656a)
>> >
>> > I'm able to Fresh install 5.0.7 without any problems
>> > using the new upgrade license for 5.0.7 and am wondering
>> > in what order the following should be installed.
>> >
>> > - oss656a - Brand(ADM) Update
>> > - oss656b - Licensing Update
>> > - Merge
>> > - Development System
>> > - SMP
>> > - MP1 - Maintenance Pack 1
>> > - UP1 - Update Pack 1
>> > - oss615a - Merge 5 Kernal Update
>> >
>> > Also, will our "SCO Openserver Development System"
>> > license still work woth 5.0.7?
>>
>> oss656a/b are superceded by MP1 and should not therefore
>> be installed.
>>
>> oss615a is not for OpenServer 5.0.7 (it is for earlier
>> releases of OpenServer like 504/505).
>>
>> I would install in the following order:
>>
>> 1) SMP (defer licensing)
>> 2) MP1
>> 3) UP1
>> 4) License SMP
>> 5) Merge
>> 6) Dev Kit
>>
>> The OpenServer 5.0.6 Development System License is
>> supported on 5.0.7.


> OSR507MP1 contains development system updates, so it is
> best installed _after_ the development system. However, I
> do not think it will matter in this specific case, because
> the DS updates are only going to apply to the 507 DS. I'm
> pretty sure that if Marc installs either in the above
> order, or in the more correct order:
>
> SMP
> Development System
> MP1
> UP1
>
> -- He'll end up with an unpatched OSR506 DS. If he used
> the OSR507 DS, MP1 would update it further.

My intention was for OSR507 DS, I'm assuming my DS License
works with it (I'm sure my DS license is more a 502)

> What is to be accomplished by deferring the SMP license? I
> can guess: OSR507MP1 fixes some SMP bugs which can cause
> boot failures on some machines. If that's the case,
> deferring the license won't help most machines, but will be
> significant on some. It also isn't necessary if you aren't
> going to reboot between installs. But sometimes reboots
> are involuntary (you might trip over the power cord...) so
> perhaps this is a wise precaution.

Is SMP really necessary?, There will never be a
multi-processor system over here!


> OSR507MP1 and UP1 do not contain Merge updates, so Merge
> could be installed various points along the way.

Thanks

Marc Champagne

"Marc Champagne" <news@ctldirect.DOT.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93FF5A3BA8840newsATctldirectDORco@207.35.1 77.135...
> Bela Lubkin <belal@sco.com> wrote in
> news:20030923092713.GZ24551@sco.com:
>
> > John Boland wrote:
> >
> >> Marc Champagne <news@ctldirect.DOT.com> wrote in message
> >> news:<Xns93FE84CF4403BnewsATctldirectDORco@207.35. 177.135>.
> >> ..
> >
> >> > As usual, I'm trying to determine what we need for an up
> >> > to date fresh installation of 5.0.7, it's not too easy.
> >> >
> >> > My latest SWIM updates included the following (along
> >> > with other media)
> >> >
> >> > License
> >> > SCO OpenServer 5.0.7
> >> > Enterprise System
> >> > Upgrade from OpenServer 5.0.6
> >> >
> >> > License
> >> > Merge 5.3
> >> > OpenServer 5.0.6+
> >> > Server, 5 User
> >> >
> >> > Diskette
> >> > SCO Openserver 5.0.7 Licensing Supplement
> >> > Part Number OSR-SLS-507a
> >> > (It appears to be oss656a)
> >> >
> >> > I'm able to Fresh install 5.0.7 without any problems
> >> > using the new upgrade license for 5.0.7 and am wondering
> >> > in what order the following should be installed.
> >> >
> >> > - oss656a - Brand(ADM) Update
> >> > - oss656b - Licensing Update
> >> > - Merge
> >> > - Development System
> >> > - SMP
> >> > - MP1 - Maintenance Pack 1
> >> > - UP1 - Update Pack 1
> >> > - oss615a - Merge 5 Kernal Update
> >> >
> >> > Also, will our "SCO Openserver Development System"
> >> > license still work woth 5.0.7?
> >>
> >> oss656a/b are superceded by MP1 and should not therefore
> >> be installed.
> >>
> >> oss615a is not for OpenServer 5.0.7 (it is for earlier
> >> releases of OpenServer like 504/505).
> >>
> >> I would install in the following order:
> >>
> >> 1) SMP (defer licensing)
> >> 2) MP1
> >> 3) UP1
> >> 4) License SMP
> >> 5) Merge
> >> 6) Dev Kit
> >>
> >> The OpenServer 5.0.6 Development System License is
> >> supported on 5.0.7.
>
>
> > OSR507MP1 contains development system updates, so it is
> > best installed _after_ the development system. However, I
> > do not think it will matter in this specific case, because
> > the DS updates are only going to apply to the 507 DS. I'm
> > pretty sure that if Marc installs either in the above
> > order, or in the more correct order:
> >
> > SMP
> > Development System
> > MP1
> > UP1
> >
> > -- He'll end up with an unpatched OSR506 DS. If he used
> > the OSR507 DS, MP1 would update it further.
>
> My intention was for OSR507 DS, I'm assuming my DS License
> works with it (I'm sure my DS license is more a 502)
>
> > What is to be accomplished by deferring the SMP license? I
> > can guess: OSR507MP1 fixes some SMP bugs which can cause
> > boot failures on some machines. If that's the case,
> > deferring the license won't help most machines, but will be
> > significant on some. It also isn't necessary if you aren't
> > going to reboot between installs. But sometimes reboots
> > are involuntary (you might trip over the power cord...) so
> > perhaps this is a wise precaution.
>
> Is SMP really necessary?, There will never be a
> multi-processor system over here!

But you may eventually use a Pentium 4 with hyperthreading,
which SMP+UP1 can utilize even without an SMP license.

>
>
> > OSR507MP1 and UP1 do not contain Merge updates, so Merge
> > could be installed various points along the way.
>
> Thanks
>
> Marc Champagne

"Marc Champagne" <news@ctldirect.DOT.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93FF57F7B654FnewsATctldirectDORco@207.35.1 77.135...
> jboland@sco.com (John Boland) wrote in
> news:d4ead94.0309230025.5b98d356@posting.google.co m:
>
> > Marc Champagne <news@ctldirect.DOT.com> wrote in message
> > news:<Xns93FE84CF4403BnewsATctldirectDORco@207.35. 177.135>..
> > .
> >> Hi Folks,
> >>
> >> As usual, I'm trying to determine what we need for an up
> >> to date fresh installation of 5.0.7, it's not too easy.
> >>
> >> My latest SWIM updates included the following (along with
> >> other media)
> >>
> >> License
> >> SCO OpenServer 5.0.7
> >> Enterprise System
> >> Upgrade from OpenServer 5.0.6
> >>
> >> License
> >> Merge 5.3
> >> OpenServer 5.0.6+
> >> Server, 5 User
> >>
> >> Diskette
> >> SCO Openserver 5.0.7 Licensing Supplement
> >> Part Number OSR-SLS-507a
> >> (It appears to be oss656a)
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm able to Fresh install 5.0.7 without any problems using
> >> the new upgrade license for 5.0.7 and am wondering in what
> >> order the following should be installed.
> >>
> >> - oss656a - Brand(ADM) Update
> >> - oss656b - Licensing Update
> >> - Merge
> >> - Development System
> >> - SMP
> >> - MP1 - Maintenance Pack 1
> >> - UP1 - Update Pack 1
> >> - oss615a - Merge 5 Kernal Update
> >>
> >> Also, will our "SCO Openserver Development System" license
> >> still work woth 5.0.7?
> >
> > oss656a/b are superceded by MP1 and should not therefore be
> > installed.
> >
> > oss615a is not for OpenServer 5.0.7 (it is for earlier
> > releases of OpenServer like 504/505).
>
> I must of looked for the wrong thing then or found the wrong
> thing .
>
> There is a updated Merge that I should use instead of the one
> supplied on CD for installing onto 5.0.7., do you know what
> it may be?

NeTraverse Merge 5.3.23 for OpenServer Release 5.0.6 and 5.0.7
at http://wdb1.caldera.com/clbk_web/owa/dwn_customer

>
>
> > I would install in the following order:
> >
> > 1) SMP (defer licensing)
> > 2) MP1
> > 3) UP1
> > 4) License SMP
> > 5) Merge
> > 6) Dev Kit
>
> Thanks John!
>
>
> > The OpenServer 5.0.6 Development System License is
> > supported on 5.0.7.
>
> Good!
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Marc Champagne

Bela Lubkin <belal@sco.com> wrote in message news:<20030923092713.GZ24551@sco.com>...
> John Boland wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
> > I would install in the following order:
> >
> > 1) SMP (defer licensing)
> > 2) MP1
> > 3) UP1
> > 4) License SMP
>
> What is to be accomplished by deferring the SMP license? I can guess:
> OSR507MP1 fixes some SMP bugs which can cause boot failures on some
> machines. If that's the case, deferring the license won't help most
> machines, but will be significant on some. It also isn't necessary if
> you aren't going to reboot between installs. But sometimes reboots are
> involuntary (you might trip over the power cord...) so perhaps this is a
> wise precaution.

Bela,

You cannot use a 5.0.6 SMP license on a 507 system until MP1
is installed. This bug was originally fixed in OSS656a/b and
MP1 supercedes that SLS.

John

John Boland wrote:

> Bela Lubkin <belal@sco.com> wrote in message news:<20030923092713.GZ24551@sco.com>...
> > John Boland wrote:

> > > I would install in the following order:
> > >
> > > 1) SMP (defer licensing)
> > > 2) MP1
> > > 3) UP1
> > > 4) License SMP
> >
> > What is to be accomplished by deferring the SMP license? I can guess:
> > OSR507MP1 fixes some SMP bugs which can cause boot failures on some
> > machines. If that's the case, deferring the license won't help most
> > machines, but will be significant on some. It also isn't necessary if
> > you aren't going to reboot between installs. But sometimes reboots are
> > involuntary (you might trip over the power cord...) so perhaps this is a
> > wise precaution.
>
> Bela,
>
> You cannot use a 5.0.6 SMP license on a 507 system until MP1
> is installed. This bug was originally fixed in OSS656a/b and
> MP1 supercedes that SLS.

Thanks. It's not much fun writing install order documents. Everything
is conditional. Here we're looking for something like:

Canonical install order for OSR507 with OSR507UP1 Supplement CD
available (today, 2003-09-24, the frisbees containing this are to
start shipping soon, and an ISO image should be on the FTP site very
soon -- whatever that means):

1. ISL (using "Wd BTLD" if installing onto IDE drive; "ad320 BTLD" if
using Adaptec 29320/39320 series adapter)
2. SMP (if you intend to install it; defer licensing)
3. MP1
4. UP1 (if you have SCO Update license)
6. Wd Driver Supplement (recommended; required if ISL used "Wd BTLD")
7. Large Filesystem Performance Supplement
A. (any time after #1) Merge (if you intend to install it)
B. (any time after #3) License SMP (if you installed it)

.... except I've still left out (forgotten) lots of options along the
way, conditionals you have to watch out for, etc.

>Bela<

"Bela Lubkin" <belal@sco.com> wrote in message
news:20030924101255.GC24551@sco.com...
> John Boland wrote:
>
> > Bela Lubkin <belal@sco.com> wrote in message
news:<20030923092713.GZ24551@sco.com>...
> > > John Boland wrote:
>
> > > > I would install in the following order:
> > > >
> > > > 1) SMP (defer licensing)
> > > > 2) MP1
> > > > 3) UP1
> > > > 4) License SMP
> > >
> > > What is to be accomplished by deferring the SMP license? I can guess:
> > > OSR507MP1 fixes some SMP bugs which can cause boot failures on some
> > > machines. If that's the case, deferring the license won't help most
> > > machines, but will be significant on some. It also isn't necessary if
> > > you aren't going to reboot between installs. But sometimes reboots
are
> > > involuntary (you might trip over the power cord...) so perhaps this is
a
> > > wise precaution.
> >
> > Bela,
> >
> > You cannot use a 5.0.6 SMP license on a 507 system until MP1
> > is installed. This bug was originally fixed in OSS656a/b and
> > MP1 supercedes that SLS.
>
> Thanks. It's not much fun writing install order documents. Everything
> is conditional. Here we're looking for something like:
>
> Canonical install order for OSR507 with OSR507UP1 Supplement CD
> available (today, 2003-09-24, the frisbees containing this are to
> start shipping soon, and an ISO image should be on the FTP site very
> soon -- whatever that means):
>
> 1. ISL (using "Wd BTLD" if installing onto IDE drive; "ad320 BTLD" if
> using Adaptec 29320/39320 series adapter)

(also using oss653a VGA BTLD on certain newer P4 motherboards)

> 2. SMP (if you intend to install it; defer licensing)

2a. Openserver Development System 5.0.7 (if you intend to install it)?

> 3. MP1
> 4. UP1 (if you have SCO Update license)
> 6. Wd Driver Supplement (recommended; required if ISL used "Wd BTLD")

Is this the same as the enhanced wd driver included in UP1? The UP1 Release
Notes alluded to the new wd driver being released as a separate BTLD.
(The new wd driver supports disks > 138GB.)

> 7. Large Filesystem Performance Supplement

Also not yet officially announced or released?

> A. (any time after #1) Merge (if you intend to install it)
> B. (any time after #3) License SMP (if you installed it)
>
> ... except I've still left out (forgotten) lots of options along the
> way, conditionals you have to watch out for, etc.
>
> >Bela<