In article <v0agpvck1hjbr60o9k93isl56kvm7q6k96@4ax.com>,
FyRE <FyRE@toktik.demon.ku.oc.x> wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:08:36 +0000 (UTC), tony@aplawrence.com wrote:
>
>>FyRE <FyRE@toktik.demon.ku.oc.x> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:40:27 +0000 (UTC), tony@aplawrence.com wrote:
>>
>>>>FyRE <FyRE@toktik.demon.ku.oc.x> wrote:
>>
>>>The warnings are given, the authors have the final say in what they
>>>wish to write. If you want to stay with the older versions of the
>>>tools you can grab the source code or binaries and carry on using them
>>>for as long as you like. You can even modify the code yourself;
>>>imagine that! As I said, nobody forces you to use the latest tools.

>>I don't give a rat's ass if the warnings are on cereal boxes: it's
>>still STUPID.

>Yes, I think the word stupid applies here all right. Let's suppose you
>drive a car, Tony; now one day a new model of your current car
>appears, all shiny and new as it spins in the showroom window.
>Unfortunately this new car runs on hydrogen gas, which isn't available
>in your neighbourhood. It also has the controls on the opposite side,
>and it's not available in the colour you'd like. Now, if you were
>stupid you'd wander on into the dealer's lair and drop your cash, then
>spend the next 5 years complaining about your purchase. A smart man
>would stick with what he has, or use something else.

>In short, nobody is FORCING you to jump into that car, Tony...

The problem with the changes to the OS is that you don't know about
them untl AFTER the fact. It's like buying the car and finding so
many things change that you can't handle them - and the dealer
has an 'all sales final' policy.

And as to things being different it reminded me of an incident a
long time ago. A dealer had me try out a new Motoguzzi [and
Italian motorcycle]. I drove off, pressed my foot down to change
gears and came to a quick halt. The brake and transmission were on
opposite sides of almost everyother bike made.

It's one thing to know what surprises may be in store - but it's
disconcerting to find them after the fact.



--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com

FyRE <FyRE@toktik.demon.ku.oc.x> wrote:
>On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 14:08:36 +0000 (UTC), tony@aplawrence.com wrote:

>>FyRE <FyRE@toktik.demon.ku.oc.x> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 10:40:27 +0000 (UTC), tony@aplawrence.com wrote:
>>
>>>>FyRE <FyRE@toktik.demon.ku.oc.x> wrote:
>>
>>>The warnings are given, the authors have the final say in what they
>>>wish to write. If you want to stay with the older versions of the
>>>tools you can grab the source code or binaries and carry on using them
>>>for as long as you like. You can even modify the code yourself;
>>>imagine that! As I said, nobody forces you to use the latest tools.
>>
>>I don't give a rat's ass if the warnings are on cereal boxes: it's
>>still STUPID.

>Yes, I think the word stupid applies here all right. Let's suppose you
>drive a car, Tony; now one day a new model of your current car
>appears, all shiny and new as it spins in the showroom window.
>Unfortunately this new car runs on hydrogen gas, which isn't available
>in your neighbourhood. It also has the controls on the opposite side,
>and it's not available in the colour you'd like. Now, if you were
>stupid you'd wander on into the dealer's lair and drop your cash, then
>spend the next 5 years complaining about your purchase. A smart man
>would stick with what he has, or use something else.

>In short, nobody is FORCING you to jump into that car, Tony...

Well, you are wrong, boopy, because what I do for a living is work
on people's cars when they don't run right.

I don't control what they buy, but when I jump into it to start it up, it
annoys me when the gas pedal has been moved again.


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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:11:48 +0100, FyRE <FyRE@toktik.demon.ku.oc.x>
wrote:

>On 23 Oct 2003 08:19:55 -0700, jlselsewhere@my-deja.com (J. L.
>Schilling) wrote:
>
>>"Jim Sullivan" <seattlecurler@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<j46dnS3VF-Ni9AqiRVn-vA@comcast.com>...
>>> I actually think that this article resonates after reading this thread!
>>>
>>> Pros, Priests and Zealots: The Three Faces of Linux
>>> http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/31899.html
>>
>>Yes, it does. It's easy to identify all three types in posts to
>>this newsgroup ;-)
>
>I can't believe anyone would stoop so low as to identify with an
>Enderle article. Any search on his "opinions" will quickly show the
>idiot as the whoring schill he is. In fact, please do read the article
>linked above; it's rare you get the chance to read such wrongheaded
>nonsense plastered up on a supposed news site (well, aside from Darl's
>ludicrous daily statements - I'm still expecting Darl to turn up to
>the next press conference in a tin-foil hat).

Once upon a time, I worked for a compulsive liar. 99% of everything
that he said was a lie, gross distortion, embellishment,
misinterpretation, fabrication, or combination of these. It wasn't
terribly difficult for me to recognize the lies and distortions as I
was able to reason for myself. He continued to lie, while I continued
to get the work done. I found the remaining 1% was well worth the
effort of listening. These were gems of importance and enlightenment
which over the years have had a profound effect on the way I looked at
the world of business. At the bottom of every dumpster is a gem.
Whether these are worth excavating is up to the individual.

Since then, I've worked for and with others that had differing
opinions, minority political views, divergent viewpoints,
non-traditional philosophies, and strange problem solving
methodologies. I never pass judgement on the individual and have
successfully worked with people I would not spend 1 millisecond with
outside of work. You wanna reconsider your unsubstantiated summary
judgement of the author and redirect your criticism to his opinions.


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