In article <fe3arvc1n45hpf3dvrh9qa5lqn1kkrtfuv@4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:43:26 GMT, JamesDad
><mewnewsARROGANCE@mailandnews.com> wrote:

>>4) Going back to the "Tux" factor, Linus Torvalds would
>>probably be pleased to see the description of penguins as
>>"super-aggressive" and that the brains of wild penguins are
>>toxic ("you don't want to mess around with Tux's brains!").

>The theory behind cannibalism is that one inherits the attributes of
>whom one eats. We are what we eat. However, I usually don't eat the
>brains of lower animals, which may explain why mine is still
>functional.

But for the tribes that practiced canibalism spongiform
encephalitis was passsed on to those who ate their dead relatives,
which was pretty devastating. Now it's normally just thought
of with 'mad cow diasease'. You are what you eat was quite true
in those tribes, with devastating results.

Bill
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:45:19 GMT, bv@wjv.comREMOVE (Bill Vermillion)
wrote:

>But for the tribes that practiced canibalism spongiform
>encephalitis was passsed on to those who ate their dead relatives,
>which was pretty devastating. Now it's normally just thought
>of with 'mad cow diasease'. You are what you eat was quite true
>in those tribes, with devastating results.

Personally, I like the fun ways of applying "you are what you eat." I
think it was in the "Reader's Digest" years ago that I first heard this
one:

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(Husband and wife are sitting in a restaurant, looking at the dessert
menu.)

Husband: Now dear, be careful what you choose. You are what you eat, you
know.

Wife: Good! Let's eat something rich.

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Along similar lines, I've joked at this time of the year that at
Thanksgiving we need to be aware that you are what you eat; you're likely
to be a "turkey" or a "ham". And if you spend too much time nibbling at
the snack table, you're likely to be nuts. Either that or a "dip". :-)


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On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:45:19 GMT, bv@wjv.comREMOVE (Bill Vermillion)
wrote:

>In article <fe3arvc1n45hpf3dvrh9qa5lqn1kkrtfuv@4ax.com>,
>Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>>On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:43:26 GMT, JamesDad
>><mewnewsARROGANCE@mailandnews.com> wrote:

>>>4) Going back to the "Tux" factor, Linus Torvalds would
>>>probably be pleased to see the description of penguins as
>>>"super-aggressive" and that the brains of wild penguins are
>>>toxic ("you don't want to mess around with Tux's brains!").

>>The theory behind cannibalism is that one inherits the attributes of
>>whom one eats. We are what we eat. However, I usually don't eat the
>>brains of lower animals, which may explain why mine is still
>>functional.

>But for the tribes that practiced canibalism spongiform
>encephalitis was passsed on to those who ate their dead relatives,
>which was pretty devastating. Now it's normally just thought
>of with 'mad cow diasease'. You are what you eat was quite true
>in those tribes, with devastating results.
>Bill

I wasn't referring to ritual consumption of the relatives. I was
referring to the tendency that such things as success, luck, and good
looks were tangible objects that could be assumed by eating someone
that possessed them. The successful hunter was at risk of getting
killed and eaten by the less successful hunters of the tribe. Same
with anyone else that was successful at some activity. The logic may
have been the most detrimental and reactionary effect on human
progress in human history. By killing and eating the most successful,
we retarded progress and stifled innovation.

Penguin Soup for the Soul. Note the cover illustration:

http://www.political-sciences.com/Pe...312193165.html
Do penguins eat humans?

Today, we're more civilized. If you're successful, you get taxed to
death. If you're really successful, you get sued. If you've managed
to survive litigation and taxes, then you get investigated by the
Justice Department. Canibalism and eating the successful are still
quite popular.

There are some parallels in the SCO vs everyone debacle, but I don't
wanna start yet another tangential debate over trivia.


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Tony Lawrence wrote:

>Scott Burns <scott@mirrabooka.com> wrote:
>
>
>>JamesDad wrote:
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>>If running McDonald's cash registers is their big (legitimate) cash cow,
>>>why isn't anyone promoting a boycott of McDonald's? I'm sure there are
>>>enough Linux geeks who regularly eat there to at least raise a big stink,
>>>whether or not there are enough (even with friends and family) to put a
>>>dent in Mickey D's bottom line. I've had thoughts of doing so myself,
>>>except that it would be hypocritical--I very rarely eat there anyway. I'm
>>>more of a Krystal/Hardee's/Burger King/Checkers kinda guy myself.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I'd happily boycott McDonalds, except I've been boycotting them for
>>four and a half years already because of their ANZAC day adds...
>>
>>
>
>
>
>> I must admit a certain glee when I found out that they ran SCO...
>>
>>
>
>I doubt McDonalds would notice or care.
>
I don't believe there is any legal way for an "average Joe" to make
McDonalds notice or care about what they do. If we step into illegal
there are plenty of ways depending on your level of resolve, but none
I'd care to try. This doesn't mean I should give in and give money to
an american company I feel is using dead Australians to sell hamburgers.

Bringing it back on topic I feel the same with SCO (apart from the
dead Australians bit). I can escape any ethical bits because (a) we
were already converting to Linux when this hit and (b) we ran
SCO/Informix - IBM owns Informix and I'm sure we can all guess what that
means for support now...

>
>I rarely eat there, but even if I were one of the more rabid here,
>I'm not going to pass up lunch if I'm hungry and the other choice
>is Joe's Greasy Spoon.
>
>
>
I don't think of myself as rabid, but then this has never been an
issue. Think about it: how many McDonalds do not have alternatives
nearby? The closest I can come is that Sydney airport gives you the
option of expensive cafes or a ~500m walk + getting through security
into another terminal + the same back in order to go with Burger King.
I always went with the cafe. The coffee was better...

Given your example, however, I'd either eat at Joe's or go hungry.
I'm a little more lenient with SCO - as I've said in previous posts
there are a few special cases in which I could see myself giving SCO
more money.



--
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Mirrabooka Systems

Tel +61 7 3857 7899
Fax +61 7 3857 1368

JamesDad wrote:
> If running McDonald's cash registers is their big (legitimate) cash
> cow,
> why isn't anyone promoting a boycott of McDonald's? I'm sure there are

I boycotted K-Mart when they dumped Unix for NT. And you know what happened
to K-Mart a year or two later after the switch?

That's right, Chap. 11.


-eric wood

PS. Hey,.... pssst! K-Mart, did you know Walmart is still running Unix for
some bizarre reason called "effeciency".

On Thu, Nov 20, 2003, Eric Wood wrote:
>JamesDad wrote:
>> If running McDonald's cash registers is their big (legitimate) cash
>> cow,
>> why isn't anyone promoting a boycott of McDonald's? I'm sure there are
>
>I boycotted K-Mart when they dumped Unix for NT. And you know what happened
>to K-Mart a year or two later after the switch?
>
>That's right, Chap. 11.
>
>
>-eric wood
>
>PS. Hey,.... pssst! K-Mart, did you know Walmart is still running Unix for
>some bizarre reason called "effeciency".

They're also selling some pretty good Linux boxes with SuSE preinstalled.

Bill
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:41:28 -0500, "Eric Wood" <eric@interplas.com>
wrote:
>JamesDad wrote:
>> If running McDonald's cash registers is their big (legitimate) cash
>> cow,
>> why isn't anyone promoting a boycott of McDonald's? I'm sure there are
>
>I boycotted K-Mart when they dumped Unix for NT. And you know what happened
>to K-Mart a year or two later after the switch?
>
>That's right, Chap. 11.

Didn't hurt that at the same time there was a major boycott going on
against K-Mart because of their ownership of WaldenBooks, which among
other things sold pornography. And it wasn't just your "fiery fundies"
boycotting--even traditionally "liberal" churches like the United
Methodists were involved.


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I'm Mike--James' Dad, hence "JamesDad". I use this nym in memory of my
son James Webb (1992-2000) who died fighting leukemia. He was a greater
man at 8 than some ever become. May his life, battle and story never be
forgotten! More info at <http://www.themiraclekids.com/mem-james.htm>.
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In article <mjhfrvklj39m9bokbg3b1614tgs59bvdr4@4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 14:45:19 GMT, bv@wjv.comREMOVE (Bill Vermillion)
>wrote:

>>In article <fe3arvc1n45hpf3dvrh9qa5lqn1kkrtfuv@4ax.com>,
>>Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote:
>>>On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:43:26 GMT, JamesDad
>>><mewnewsARROGANCE@mailandnews.com> wrote:

>>>>4) Going back to the "Tux" factor, Linus Torvalds would
>>>>probably be pleased to see the description of penguins as
>>>>"super-aggressive" and that the brains of wild penguins are
>>>>toxic ("you don't want to mess around with Tux's brains!").

>>>The theory behind cannibalism is that one inherits the attributes of
>>>whom one eats. We are what we eat. However, I usually don't eat the
>>>brains of lower animals, which may explain why mine is still
>>>functional.

>>But for the tribes that practiced canibalism spongiform
>>encephalitis was passsed on to those who ate their dead relatives,
>>which was pretty devastating. Now it's normally just thought
>>of with 'mad cow diasease'. You are what you eat was quite true
>>in those tribes, with devastating results.
>>Bill

>I wasn't referring to ritual consumption of the relatives.

But it was appropriate in that case.

>I was referring to the tendency that such things as success,
>luck, and good looks were tangible objects that could be assumed
>by eating someone that possessed them. The successful hunter
>was at risk of getting killed and eaten by the less successful
>hunters of the tribe. Same with anyone else that was successful
>at some activity.

And with lower life forms - though it is not canibalism - the 'you
are what you eat' has had some interesting results. I read someone
in the past that earthworms fed with ground-up other earthworms
inherited some of the learned actions of their 'dinner'.

> The logic may have been the most detrimental and reactionary
>effect on human progress in human history. By killing and eating
>the most successful, we retarded progress and stifled innovation.

>Today, we're more civilized. If you're successful, you get taxed to
>death. If you're really successful, you get sued. If you've managed
>to survive litigation and taxes, then you get investigated by the
>Justice Department. Canibalism and eating the successful are still
>quite popular.

And of course there are the other methods. Those with
power/money/hired-guns went after the successful to get ahead not
by being successful but by having a bigger stick.

Bill

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