On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:50:36 +0000,
Fred Emmott <pcfreak65@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Alan Connor wrote:
>| On 23 Oct 2003 21:25:32 GMT, Mark Hill <mark_usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>|>
>|>I think you'd have to filter on something within the body, like
>|>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>|>as there isn't anything distinguishable in the basic headers.
>|
>| And by-the-way, if he follows your advice, he will also filter out a lot
>| of people that use PGP sigs but have the manners to put the info in their
>| headers and refer to it in a small part of their legal sig.

Care to show any header-signed PGP messages which include the "BEGIN PGP
SIGNED MESSAGE" line? I haven't seen any, so would genuinely like to see
one.


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On 23 Oct 2003 22:53:01 GMT, Mark Hill <mark_usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 22:50:36 +0000,
> Fred Emmott <pcfreak65@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Alan Connor wrote:
>>| On 23 Oct 2003 21:25:32 GMT, Mark Hill <mark_usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>|>
>>|>I think you'd have to filter on something within the body, like
>>|>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>|>as there isn't anything distinguishable in the basic headers.
>>|
>>| And by-the-way, if he follows your advice, he will also filter out a lot
>>| of people that use PGP sigs but have the manners to put the info in their
>>| headers and refer to it in a small part of their legal sig.
>
> Care to show any header-signed PGP messages which include the "BEGIN PGP
> SIGNED MESSAGE" line? I haven't seen any, so would genuinely like to see
> one.


No. They don't. That's one of the good things about them: They don't get
in people's faces with their PGP sigs; don't violate the spirit of the
4-line sig rule.

The program that depends on the in-your-face pgpsigs is poorly designed,
there being no reason for this except ego. It makes a lot more sense to
have the program look for a header like X-PGP: .....

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

On 2003-10-23, Fred Emmott <pcfreak65@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here who signs their messages,
> but whose news reader doesnt have support (built-in or via plugin) for
> gpg, and manually signs some text via gpg in console?

I use a reader that supports PGP signing, but sign using a pipe to gpg
anyway. I think there was an issue where slrn's gpg addon could only do
MIME-signed posts, which I disliked. Perhaps that's changed, but I
haven't yet looked.

BTW, please trim your posts to relevant context, and please shorten your
pre-PGP sig to four lines or fewer.

> Perl: The only language that looks the same before and after a RSA
> encryption

Hmpf. Perl is significantly more readable after encryption.

- --keith

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Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org

iEYEARECAAYFAj+YmM0ACgkQhVcNCxZ5ID9z8QCggZ9PqFzbeg 1Gkk680IhlXnXi
/2MAn2HFkBHkpvkFfSW7bm4PY8rNEva0
=sJ0Z
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Keith Keller wrote:
| On 2003-10-23, Fred Emmott <pcfreak65@hotmail.com> wrote:
|
|>Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here who signs their messages,
|>but whose news reader doesnt have support (built-in or via plugin) for
|>gpg, and manually signs some text via gpg in console?
|
|
| I use a reader that supports PGP signing, but sign using a pipe to gpg
| anyway. I think there was an issue where slrn's gpg addon could only do
| MIME-signed posts, which I disliked. Perhaps that's changed, but I
| haven't yet looked.
|
| BTW, please trim your posts to relevant context, and please shorten your
| pre-PGP sig to four lines or fewer.
|
|
|>Perl: The only language that looks the same before and after a RSA
|>encryption
|
|
| Hmpf. Perl is significantly more readable after encryption.
|
| --keith
|
Sorry, kinda new to usenet didnt know that was a rule.... (sigs bit)
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(GPG Key ID 0x710A691A)
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Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

iD8DBQE/mPdOKt5SHnEKaRoRAqhfAJ9hkUVIF4QFM5fgabnhYvo3eJYpFQ CfSJGJ
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Fred Emmott <pcfreak65@hotmail.com> says...

>Sorry, kinda new to usenet didnt know that was a rule.... (sigs bit)

Here are some references for those who are interested
in improving the quality of their posts to this newsgroup.

I put the web sites that (in my opinion) are most helpful
at the top.

--------------------------------------------------------

Netiquette: "When thou enter a city, abide by its customs."
http://www.glowworms.com/~vez/neti.html

How To Followup A Post On Netnews Properly
http://www.star-one.org.uk/computer/format.htm

Usenet 101: How to properly format a Usenet post
http://home.sprintmail.com/~dtrout/Usenet101.html

How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Posting help for newbies
http://www.windfalls.net/ukrm/postinghelp.html

Bottom vs. top posting and quotation style on Usenet
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html

Zen and the art of the internet (usenet section)
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_6.html

The seven don'ts of Usenet
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/dont.html

Why bottom-posting is better than top-posting
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html

+What do you mean "my reply is upside-down"?
http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/

The advantages of usenet's quoting conventions
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g.mccau...ks/uquote.html

Rules for posting to Usenet
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/posting-rules/part1/

Why should I place my response below the quoted text?
http://allmyfaqs.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl...bottom-posting

Why you shouldn't ask for E-mail responses on Usenet
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usene...responses.html

Quoting Style in Newsgroup Postings
http://www.xs4all.nl/%7ewijnands/nnq/nquote.html

Put an end to Outlook Express's messy quotes with this automated fix!
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/

For the Engineer/Programmer: News related RFCs and Drafts
http://www.tin.org/docs.html




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alex49201 wrote:

> 1. Using Knode, how do i create a filter to remove all messages not
> gpg/pgp signed?
>
You cant, Knode can only filter on headers.

> 2. Using Knode, where can i set it to sign all messages by default?
>
Again, you cant.
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Thomas Overgaard wrote:

> alex49201 wrote:
>
>> 1. Using Knode, how do i create a filter to remove all messages not
>> gpg/pgp signed?
>>
> You cant, Knode can only filter on headers.
>
>> 2. Using Knode, where can i set it to sign all messages by default?
>>
> Again, you cant.

Okay, I was starting to see that. Are there any newsreaders that can
do these two things?

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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:13:18 -0700,
Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:

> I think there was an issue where slrn's gpg addon could only do
> MIME-signed posts, which I disliked. Perhaps that's changed, but I
> haven't yet looked.

I don't think that's an issue with gnupg.sl, at least, which seems to be
quite a popular signing macro.


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