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Old 02-18-2008, 07:00 PM
alex49201
 
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Two questions:

1. Using Knode, how do i create a filter to remove all messages not
gpg/pgp signed?

2. Using Knode, where can i set it to sign all messages by default?

Thanks for your help.

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:00 PM
Joost Kremers
 
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alex49201 wrote:
> 1. Using Knode, how do i create a filter to remove all messages not
> gpg/pgp signed?


when you've done that, let me know. that way i can kf you, so i won't reply
in vain to your posts.

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:00 PM
alex49201
 
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Joost Kremers wrote:

> alex49201 wrote:
>> 1. Using Knode, how do i create a filter to remove all messages not
>> gpg/pgp signed?

>
> when you've done that, let me know. that way i can kf you, so i
> won't reply in vain to your posts.
>


Actually i planned on using it as a filter, similar to the one i use
to view 'only threads with my messages' or such. with knode picking a
different filter is only a click away. I wouldn't 'in essence'
killfile all non-signed messages. I would be at risk of losing the
benefit of good advice from non-gpg'ers, such as yourself.

I heard this mentioned in one of the other gpg threads, and just
curious how i would do it.

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:01 PM
Mark Hill
 
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:29:24 GMT,
alex49201 <alex@ae.homelinux.com> wrote:
>
> 1. Using Knode, how do i create a filter to remove all messages not
> gpg/pgp signed?


I think you'd have to filter on something within the body, like
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
as there isn't anything distinguishable in the basic headers.

Filtering on the body of a post is expensive however, as your newsreader
will have to download the entire post before it knows to killfile it or
not. (When you're doing this with tens of posts, this can take a long
time).

FWIW, anything not in the overview information of a group is expensive.
The overview information usually just includes the following headers:
Subject:
From:
Date:
Message-ID:
References:
Bytes:
Lines:
Xref:


BTW, if you do decide to filter out non-signed posts, you'd do people,
(and most likely yourself), a favour by stating this in your sig.

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:01 PM
Mark Hill
 
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On 23 Oct 2003 21:25:32 GMT,
Mark Hill <mark_usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I think you'd have to filter on something within the body, like


If you're using slrn to hide pgp sigs, you may not see the above
paragraph properly. (Pressing ] should reveal it). Sorry about that.



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Old 02-18-2008, 07:01 PM
Alan Connor
 
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On 23 Oct 2003 21:25:32 GMT, Mark Hill <mark_usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:29:24 GMT,
> alex49201 <alex@ae.homelinux.com> wrote:
>>
>> 1. Using Knode, how do i create a filter to remove all messages not
>> gpg/pgp signed?

>
> I think you'd have to filter on something within the body, like
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> as there isn't anything distinguishable in the basic headers.
>
> Filtering on the body of a post is expensive however, as your newsreader
> will have to download the entire post before it knows to killfile it or
> not. (When you're doing this with tens of posts, this can take a long
> time).
>
> FWIW, anything not in the overview information of a group is expensive.
> The overview information usually just includes the following headers:
> Subject:
> From:
> Date:
> Message-ID:
> References:
> Bytes:
> Lines:
> Xref:
>
>
> BTW, if you do decide to filter out non-signed posts, you'd do people,
> (and most likely yourself), a favour by stating this in your sig.


So this fellow wants to filter out 99.999% of the posts on the Usenet?

??????

And by-the-way, if he follows your advice, he will also filter out a lot
of people that use PGP sigs but have the manners to put the info in their
headers and refer to it in a small part of their legal sig.

This would be about, according to my observations, a third of the people
that use PGP sigs.

At least by filtering out posts with in-your-face PGP sigs, I will be spared
having to read the posts of that fool.

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:01 PM
Fred Emmott
 
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Alan Connor wrote:
| On 23 Oct 2003 21:25:32 GMT, Mark Hill <mark_usenet@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
|
|>
|>On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 20:29:24 GMT,
|>alex49201 <alex@ae.homelinux.com> wrote:
|>
|>>1. Using Knode, how do i create a filter to remove all messages not
|>>gpg/pgp signed?
|>
|>I think you'd have to filter on something within the body, like
|>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
|>as there isn't anything distinguishable in the basic headers.
|>
|>Filtering on the body of a post is expensive however, as your newsreader
|>will have to download the entire post before it knows to killfile it or
|>not. (When you're doing this with tens of posts, this can take a long
|>time).
|>
|>FWIW, anything not in the overview information of a group is expensive.
|>The overview information usually just includes the following headers:
|>Subject:
|>From:
|>Date:
|>Message-ID:
|>References:
|>Bytes:
|>Lines:
|>Xref:
|>
|>
|>BTW, if you do decide to filter out non-signed posts, you'd do people,
|>(and most likely yourself), a favour by stating this in your sig.
|
|
| So this fellow wants to filter out 99.999% of the posts on the Usenet?
|
| ??????
|
| And by-the-way, if he follows your advice, he will also filter out a lot
| of people that use PGP sigs but have the manners to put the info in their
| headers and refer to it in a small part of their legal sig.
|
| This would be about, according to my observations, a third of the people
| that use PGP sigs.
|
| At least by filtering out posts with in-your-face PGP sigs, I will be
spared
| having to read the posts of that fool.
|
Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here who signs their messages,
but whose news reader doesnt have support (built-in or via plugin) for
gpg, and manually signs some text via gpg in console?

(I'm using enigmail in Mozilla Thunderbird, as a glanse of the headers
shows )

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:01 PM
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> Filtering on the body of a post is expensive however, as your
> newsreader will have to download the entire post before it knows to
> killfile it or not. (When you're doing this with tens of posts, this
> can take a long time).


I don't want to killfile the non-gpg posts, just be able to filter
them out of view. Currently i use one filter to only show threads
that i've posted to. Same with the normal killfilees, i have a
filter for them, so i can alternate seeing them or not, (helps when
someone does reponded to them, to read both side of the argument).

Anyway, in the knode filter options, it seems i can make rules to
filter on a per-article or per-thread basis, based on subject, from,
message-id, references. But I can't see a way to filter on body
contents.

Secret tips anyone?

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:01 PM
George Georgakis
 
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Fred Emmott <pcfreak65@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here who signs their
> messages, but whose news reader doesnt have support (built-in or
> via plugin) for gpg, and manually signs some text via gpg in
> console?


Xnews doesn't include support for GPG/PGP yet. A bad flaw in an
otherwise nice piece of software.

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:01 PM
Guy Macon
 
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George Georgakis <geeg@tripleg.GO.AWAY.SPAMMERS.net.au> says...
>
>Fred Emmott <pcfreak65@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Just out of curiosity, is there anyone here who signs their
>> messages, but whose news reader doesnt have support (built-in or
>> via plugin) for gpg, and manually signs some text via gpg in
>> console?

>
>Xnews doesn't include support for GPG/PGP yet. A bad flaw in an
>otherwise nice piece of software.


WinVN also lacks support for GPG/PGP. I am all set up to start
signing manually and to distribute my key and put it on my
web page, but I don't wish to do the extra work unless someone
starts impersonating me.


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