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Old 02-18-2008, 07:07 PM
Pete
 
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Hi,

One question, that's all. Is the documentation available *in* Slackware
9.1, to configure Sendmail to send *and* retrieve mail from the Internet,
not just send ? Or does it do that anyway ? Ok .. that's two I know.

I've heard/read that sendmail in Slackware 9.1 does not have a sendmail.mc
already present in the /etc/mail directory.

My searches on Google have not yielded many results. Many of the returns
are links to configuring the mc file itself, not why there isn't one in
Slackware.

Can someone point me to a page to read up on it ? Damn, that's three ...

Thanks for your time.

Regards,

Pete.


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Old 02-18-2008, 07:07 PM
Kai Brust
 
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Pete schrieb:

> I've heard/read that sendmail in Slackware 9.1 does not have a sendmail.mc
> already present in the /etc/mail directory.

right, its in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf/
(If you have installed the sendmail-cf package)

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:07 PM
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 18:54:40 +0200, Kai Brust <kb@epost.de> not so much
wrote, as thought-projected the following info-nuggets (tm):

> Pete schrieb:
>
>> I've heard/read that sendmail in Slackware 9.1 does not have a sendmail.mc
>> already present in the /etc/mail directory.

> right, its in /usr/share/sendmail/cf/cf/
> (If you have installed the sendmail-cf package)


Many thanks Kai. Looks like I'm installing Slack then.

Regards,

Pete.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:08 PM
Loki Harfagr
 
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"Pete" <spam@netmarespam.net> wrote in
newsan.2003.10.25.17.44.35.597460@netmarespam.ne t:

> One question, that's all. Is the documentation available *in*
> Slackware 9.1, to configure Sendmail to send *and* retrieve mail
> from the Internet, not just send ?


Just mind that sendmail is a MTA, (E)SMTP only thus not
very useable to retrieve mail from
For this you need a MUA using POP and/or IMAP.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:08 PM
Jurgen Philippaerts
 
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On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:40:02PM PDT, Loki Harfagr wrote
in article <Xns941FE69B9C321l0k1freefr@213.228.0.196>:

> > One question, that's all. Is the documentation available *in*


sendmail.org has quite alot of documentation regarding sendmail too.

> > Slackware 9.1, to configure Sendmail to send *and* retrieve mail
> > from the Internet, not just send ?


well, you'll need some basic DNS and SMTP knowledge.
there are HOWTO's dedicated to both of these at tldp.org
there's a slackware package that has most of the howtos also. but
the name escapes me right now, i never bother to install it, i prefer
the online versions.

and there's the mail administrater's howto, that should get you
started.

> Just mind that sendmail is a MTA, (E)SMTP only thus not
> very useable to retrieve mail from
> For this you need a MUA using POP and/or IMAP.


hmm... not quite.
my mail arrives over smtp, sendmail hands it to procmail, procmail
puts it in my mailbox, and mutt reads it. no pop or imap are
involved.

there is more then one way to receive/read your mails


ps: i've heared that the sendmail package that comes with slackware
pretty much works out of the box. but i can't confirm this, since i
never install it, and just grab the latest source and do my own
install.


Jurgen.

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:08 PM
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> there is more then one way to receive/read your mails

Fetchmail/gotmail/sendmail -> Sendmail -> Mimedefang -> UVscan ->
SpamAssassin -> Mimedefang -> Procmail -> maildir -> popa3d -> maildir
-> kmail

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Old 02-18-2008, 07:10 PM
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In article <pan.2003.10.26.10.02.25.348419@localhost.localdom ain>,
Pete wrote:
[ sendmail / MTA discussion snipped ]
> I'm posting this from Slackware 9.1 now. I was initially worried that the


Uh, Pete, unless you're using a mail2news gateway, sendmail has nothing
to do with news posting. Maybe you knew that, but the way you said this
in context it sounded like you may have some confusion there.

BTW you might want to change your /etc/HOSTNAME to something a bit more
distinct. You share that "localhost.localdomain" hostname with millions
of clueless RH/Fedora and Mandrake newbies. It actually could cause a
problem if one of your posts had the same Message-ID as another one.

(Actually it's best for most people to let the server generate the
Message-ID.)
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:13 PM
Loki Harfagr
 
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Jurgen Philippaerts <jurgen@see.my.pgp.key> wrote in
news:20031025205711.GE2309@anubis.is.traumatized.o rg:

>> Just mind that sendmail is a MTA, (E)SMTP only thus not
>> very useable to retrieve mail from
>> For this you need a MUA using POP and/or IMAP.

>
> hmm... not quite.
> my mail arrives over smtp, sendmail hands it to procmail, procmail
> puts it in my mailbox, and mutt reads it. no pop or imap are
> involved.


That's right, but this way is feasible because
you use the server as your machine (or would it be reverse ?-)
I was just noting the standard way to scheme it
just in case the OP was wondering how to read the mail thru SMTP

> there is more then one way to receive/read your mails


And legion to try and filter them !-)
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:13 PM
Eef Hartman
 
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Loki Harfagr <LarsHummigeret@yahoo.no> wrote:
> That's right, but this way is feasible because
> you use the server as your machine (or would it be reverse ?-)


No, the server also is NFS server to MY machine, and my home dir
thus is visible both to IT (cq procmail) and the client (i.e. mutt)
from the NFS client.
Still no POP/IMAP needed, just NFS.
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Old 02-18-2008, 07:13 PM
Loki Harfagr
 
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Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@math.tudelft.nl> wrote in news:bnj9b9$q9a$1
@news.tudelft.nl:

> Loki Harfagr <LarsHummigeret@yahoo.no> wrote:
>> That's right, but this way is feasible because
>> you use the server as your machine (or would it be reverse ?-)

>
> No, the server also is NFS server to MY machine, and my home dir
> thus is visible both to IT (cq procmail) and the client (i.e. mutt)
> from the NFS client.
> Still no POP/IMAP needed, just NFS.


Allright, not to be picky but NFS isn't SMTP...
That's tricky

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