On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:39:45 -0600, Morgan Landry <morganlandry@linuxmail.org> wrote:
>
>
> /dev/rob0 wrote:
>
>| The glibc-zoneinfo package does this all automatically, if your time
>| zone has been correctly configured in "timeconfig". In fact I only knew
>| that Daylight Savings time had ended when I looked at my system clock
>| this morning.
>|
>| This could be a problem if you dual-boot, I guess.
>
> Actually, I dual-boot, even though I use Linux 90% of the time, and my
> hardware clock was automagically changed. I did a full install, so I
> figure that my cron has something to do with this...


There is no reason for PGP signatures to be cluttering up the bodies of
either mail or posts.

This is just an ego trip, and many of the people that use pgpsigs on the
Usenet put them in their headers, referring to this fact in a legal sig.

You can get your silly program out of my face, or you can stay in my
killfile forever.

killfiled for 90 days.

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Alan Connor wrote:
>
>
> There is no reason for PGP signatures to be cluttering up the bodies of
> either mail or posts.
>
> This is just an ego trip, and many of the people that use pgpsigs on the
> Usenet put them in their headers, referring to this fact in a legal sig.
>
> You can get your silly program out of my face, or you can stay in my
> killfile forever.
>
> killfiled for 90 days.
>

^^^^^^^
all that text over 2 or so extra lines of sig?

If it annoys you so much, killfile the guy, just do it silently.

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On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:39:45 -0600, Morgan Landry
<morganlandry@linuxmail.org> wrote:

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Hi Morgan,

What keyserver holds your key? For some reason gpg cannot find
it. I'm using wwwkeys.pgp.net, but I'm off to try a few more.

Bryan

--
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Teach a man to fish, and you give up your monopoly on fisheries.
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:27:03 GMT, Ori <oridean@rogers-dot.com> wrote:
>
>
> Alan Connor wrote:
>>
>>
>> There is no reason for PGP signatures to be cluttering up the bodies of
>> either mail or posts.
>>
>> This is just an ego trip, and many of the people that use pgpsigs on the
>> Usenet put them in their headers, referring to this fact in a legal sig.
>>
>> You can get your silly program out of my face, or you can stay in my
>> killfile forever.
>>
>> killfiled for 90 days.
>>
>
> ^^^^^^^
> all that text over 2 or so extra lines of sig?
>

Actually, it's a about a half-page.

> If it annoys you so much, killfile the guy, just do it silently.
>

Silent killfiling is cowardly, socially irresponsible, and generally done
only by bigots who do not want their motives examined by anyone, including
themselves.

So I killfile noisily and you get to live with it.

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mark <m.a.r.k@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Tried to set my time using kde and the kcmshell clock crashes before
> opening. I'm now on slack-9.1 (kde-3.1.4). When I made the last change
> I was using slack-9 (probably kde-3.1.2 at that time). Anyone else
> having this problem?
>
> I couldn't find any other way to change the clock back an hour, so had
> to use reboot and do it in the BIOS. Is there a utility (other than the
> buggy kcmshell) on slack to change the clock back?

The best way is to use remote machine that has correct time.
ntpdate time.nrc.ca time.apple.com time.windows.com
hwclock --systohc
Just make sure to use secondary NTP servers. Primary servers (ie.
time.nist.gov) are not for end users.

However, if you are using port 37/13 (Time/Daytime) protocols, then I
found that <time.nist.gov> is the only one that replies on 3 ports:
netdate time.nrc.ca time.nist.gov time-nw.nist.gov
nc time.nist.gov 13
telnet time.nist.gov 13
where you have to parse and feed it to 'date' for port 13.

--
William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, <opengeometry@yahoo.ca>
Linux solution for data management and processing.

Joost Kremers wrote:

> do yourself a favour and ditch KDE

common man, KDE is ok. Threre's nothing like the convinience of having
keyboard shortcuts for each and any application. I love konqueror. Do I
need to say more?

On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 05:49:39 GMT, SuperDeamon <Invalid.me@local.Invalid.org> wrote:
>
>
> Joost Kremers wrote:
>
>> do yourself a favour and ditch KDE
>
> common man, KDE is ok. Threre's nothing like the convinience of having
> keyboard shortcuts for each and any application. I love konqueror. Do I
> need to say more?

Huh? That doesn't make any sense at all! You use a graphical desktop
environment because of the "keyboard shortcuts" ??????

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mark <m.a.r.k@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I couldn't find any other way to change the clock back an hour, so had
> to use reboot and do it in the BIOS. Is there a utility (other than the
> buggy kcmshell) on slack to change the clock back?

When you have defined your timezone right and put the hardware clock
on GMT, there is no need to ever set the clock back or forth, the
time indicator will change, the real CLOCK time will not.

Look at /etc/hardwareclock, it should contain "UTC". If not, that is,
when you're using "local time" in the BIOS clock, use "date" and
"hwclock" to reset the clock (actually when you defined the time
zone right, the date should not be necessary and even the hwclock will
be set automatically at shutdown).
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SuperDeamon wrote:
> Joost Kremers wrote:
>
>> do yourself a favour and ditch KDE
>
> common man, KDE is ok. Threre's nothing like the convinience of having
> keyboard shortcuts for each and any application.

you've apparently never heard of bbkeys.

any wm i've ever tried had the ability to define short-cut keys. there is
no reason you would need kde for that.

there is of course nothing wrong with using kde. but if you rely on it so
much that you cannot find any other way to change the clock, then you may
be relying on it a bit too much...

--
Joost Kremers
since when is vi an editor? a discussion on vi belongs in
comp.tools.unusable or something... ;-)

Joost Kremers wrote:

> you've apparently never heard of bbkeys.
>

Oh Ok; I always liked windowmaker, gave up on it because it was a hassle
navigating through menus. I'll look into it. thanks.