I was trying out virtual machines on top of my main box (running slackware).
Runs quite nicely, but either I've been using Slackware (and *BSD) for too
long, or the redhat developers are on crack - since when did openssh
*require* ldap and *pam* and since when did python *require* XF86? wtf?

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> long, or the redhat developers are on crack - since when did openssh
> *require* ldap and *pam* and since when did python *require* XF86? wtf?
>
Did you also notice, that when you do a custom isntall with 'select
individual packages' enabled, you still can't choose half the packages.

Why would I need sendmail and/or xfs-utils on a non-networked system
with ext3 on all its filesystems?

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:06:28 +0000 (UTC), Neo <neo@nospam.come-to-chat.com> wrote:
> I was trying out virtual machines on top of my main box (running slackware).
> Runs quite nicely, but either I've been using Slackware (and *BSD) for too
> long, or the redhat developers are on crack - since when did openssh
> *require* ldap and *pam* and since when did python *require* XF86? wtf?

The RedHat devs are on crack, not to worry.

The problem with all binary distros is you end up with crazy
dependencies. The binary package of OpenSSH was built, in this case,
against LDAP and PAM, so users of the package could utilize both
features. Making the package able to utilize the feature automagically
means the package must depend upon that feature now.

Ditto with Python - they built the XF86 version of Python, so users
would have the option of using the XF86 side of things, but then that
automagically means Python has to depend on XFree86.

Slackware runs in to some similar problems, you just don't run in to
them as often as the packages all work without those other things unless
you start having missing library issues.

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"AthlonRob" <junkmail@axpr.net> wrote in message
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> The RedHat devs are on crack, not to worry.
>
> The problem with all binary distros is you end up with crazy
> dependencies. The binary package of OpenSSH was built, in this case,
> against LDAP and PAM, so users of the package could utilize both
> features. Making the package able to utilize the feature automagically
> means the package must depend upon that feature now.
>
> Ditto with Python - they built the XF86 version of Python, so users
> would have the option of using the XF86 side of things, but then that
> automagically means Python has to depend on XFree86.

Yep, I knew all that I was just making passing comment

> Slackware runs in to some similar problems, you just don't run in to
> them as often as the packages all work without those other things unless
> you start having missing library issues.

that's why I like source packages

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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:06:28 +0000 (UTC), Neo thought it wise to say:

> I was trying out virtual machines on top of my main box (running slackware).
> Runs quite nicely, but either I've been using Slackware (and *BSD) for too
> long, or the redhat developers are on crack - since when did openssh
> *require* ldap and *pam* and since when did python *require* XF86? wtf?

The Redhat developers _are_ on crack, and have probably sent their
engineers on one too many 'more is better' speeches! :-)

A.

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