I was told by the mandrake people (i use mandrake linux) that slackware
people could be of help.

I'm having a tough time with Linux. I just went to transgaming.com and
downloaded winex - to play games under linux.

I always follow instructions exactly - but stuff never works for me. The
problem I'm having now - when I try to install
quake 2 under winex (which is a supported game) - I'm getting the
following error:

winex3 /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe
Building font metrics. This may take some time...
Done building font metrics
[root@localhost bob]# wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger...

There is nowhere on the site to get support. I don't even begin to know
how to debug or fix something like this.

It's not just winex, either - this happens to me a lot with Linux
software.

I'm disabled. I used to be an os/390 systems programmer - I took cipro
for a prostate infection and it did damage to my brain.

I'm trying hard to get back functionality by working at Linux - but I need
help!

I am willing to pay by check or paypal for assistance with this problem -


or any problem that I can't solve.

It will benfit me - from what I'll learn - and it will benefit you -
because I will pay for your time and help.

Anyone that thinks they can help - please email me at bobbygr@email.com

Thank you very much in advance,
Bob



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BG wrote:

> I was told by the mandrake people (i use mandrake linux) that slackware
> people could be of help.

Not quiet right.

Simply because slackware users may not be very familiar with other distros,
and it should not be expected from them either.

It is true however that Slack users maybe more familiar with Linux, but not
nesacarrily with how other distro are setup.

good luck.

In article <opryaepqedv3b8tb@news.rcn.com>, BG wrote:
> I was told by the mandrake people (i use mandrake linux) that slackware
> people could be of help.

Interesting, and possibly true, because Slackware people tend to build
greater understanding because the OS doesn't shield us from the details.
As I've said, Slackware's greatest weakness is also one of its greatest
strengths: it does not do as much for the admin.

> I'm having a tough time with Linux. I just went to transgaming.com and
> downloaded winex - to play games under linux.

Unfortunately this sounds like an area in which someone might need to be
onsite in order to be effective in helping you. You might do better
taking this matter to your local LUG.

> I always follow instructions exactly - but stuff never works for me. The

It could be that your Mandrake install is missing some necessary
components.

> [root@localhost bob]# wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger...

Perhaps the debugger is saving some information about the crash, and
that information could help you.

> I'm disabled. I used to be an os/390 systems programmer - I took cipro
> for a prostate infection and it did damage to my brain.
>
> I'm trying hard to get back functionality by working at Linux - but I need
> help!

I'm sorry to hear that. *&^%$# "modern medicine" for making guinea pigs
out of all of us!

If you'll tolerate me slipping into advocacy, it's possible that you'd
find Slackware more to your liking. It has a much simpler design
philosophy, and as such it stays out of your way when you want to do
something.

> I am willing to pay by check or paypal for assistance with this problem -

This particular one is outside my area of experience. I do wish you the
best of luck.
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> I was told by the mandrake people (i use mandrake linux) that slackware
> people could be of help.
>
> I'm having a tough time with Linux. I just went to transgaming.com and
> downloaded winex - to play games under linux.
>
> I always follow instructions exactly - but stuff never works for me.
> The
> problem I'm having now - when I try to install
> quake 2 under winex (which is a supported game) - I'm getting the
> following error:
>
> winex3 /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe
> Building font metrics. This may take some time... Done building font
> metrics
> [root@localhost bob]# wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger...
>
> There is nowhere on the site to get support. I don't even begin to know
> how to debug or fix something like this.
>
> It's not just winex, either - this happens to me a lot with Linux
> software.
>
> I'm disabled. I used to be an os/390 systems programmer - I took cipro
> for a prostate infection and it did damage to my brain.
>
> I'm trying hard to get back functionality by working at Linux - but I
> need
> help!
>
> I am willing to pay by check or paypal for assistance with this
> problem -
>
>
> or any problem that I can't solve.
>
> It will benfit me - from what I'll learn - and it will benefit you -
> because I will pay for your time and help.
>
> Anyone that thinks they can help - please email me at bobbygr@email.com
>
> Thank you very much in advance,
> Bob


while I can't be of direct help...

Your problem sounds specific to winex. All applications do not run well in
the emulator. Some of these apps can be used by modifying your winex
configuration.


A more pertinent subject line would attract a more pertinent set of people
to your problem.
May I suggest: "Problem with quake2 and winex"? May I also suggest you
indicate what distribution and version?

BG wrote:
> I always follow instructions exactly - but stuff never works for me.
> The problem I'm having now - when I try to install
> quake 2 under winex (which is a supported game) - I'm getting the
> following error:
>
> winex3 /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe
> Building font metrics. This may take some time...
> Done building font metrics
> [root@localhost bob]# wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger...
>

Have you tried with Point2Play ? ... I've personally found it quite a
bit easier to get things going with it. Use it to install WineX as well,
and each game you want to play. As far as the Mandrake bit, I believe
someone else has suggested (as I would) that you might find Slackware a
bit easier to manage. If you are (or were, as the case may be) computer
savvy, Slackware tends to be a bit less of a headache than those other
distros. I've tried loading Mandrake on my wife's system as I wanted to
try a "user friendly" distro to recommend to my Windoze-using clients,
but I messed it up within a day while trying to make it do what comes so
easily with Slack.

BG wrote:

> I was told by the mandrake people (i use mandrake linux) that slackware
> people could be of help.
>
> I'm having a tough time with Linux. I just went to transgaming.com and
> downloaded winex - to play games under linux.
>
> I always follow instructions exactly - but stuff never works for me. The
> problem I'm having now - when I try to install
> quake 2 under winex (which is a supported game) - I'm getting the
> following error:
>
> winex3 /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe
> Building font metrics. This may take some time...
> Done building font metrics
> [root@localhost bob]# wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger...
>
> There is nowhere on the site to get support. I don't even begin to know
> how to debug or fix something like this.

You have to pay transgaming for support. This is their buisness model. If
you want to play quake2, you can do so natively.

You can get the files for quake2 from http://www.quakeforge.net/
unfortunately that does not include an installer.

If you wish to continue with winex anyway I can give you a few hints. That
which you download from the cvs is not stable. Only the binaries are. So if
one version of winex seems not to work, remove it and download a new
version.

Quake 2 should definatly work under winex but i don't know abou the
installer.

> It's not just winex, either - this happens to me a lot with Linux
> software.

And the exact probles you get wih other programs is? Or is it just that
generally you have trouble getting things to work.

> Anyone that thinks they can help - please email me at bobbygr@email.com

I try to reply only to the newsgroup because then others can use the
knowledge as well.

Richard

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On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:45:16 -0500, BG <bobbygr@rcn.com> wrote:
> I always follow instructions exactly - but stuff never works for me. The
> problem I'm having now - when I try to install
> quake 2 under winex (which is a supported game) - I'm getting the

Hi Bob-

I don't have any answers for your WineX issues, unfortunately (I very
rarely use Wine/WineX these days, and it is definitely a constantly
evolving target)...

However, I do a little bit of gaming here on my linux boxen. I actually
have played Counterstrike (Half-Life engine game) under WineX, but only
by following howtos and stuff. Primarily, though, when I game (lately
anyway), I use games that are supported directly under Linux, or I...
*ghasp*... boot in to Windows.

Quake2 is not only a supported WineX/Transgaming game, it's also a game
with a full Linux port. If you're interested in going that route, I can
rip some URLs out of my Gentoo ebuilds for you. From the looks of it,
though, I only have info on the "The Icculus linux port of ID's quake2
engine" tied together with the data files from your quake2 CD. I
haven't actually played Quake2 under Linux in the last... ohhh... I want
to say five years, but that might be a little bit high. It's been since
my Voodoo3 3000 was a top-of-the-line video card.

I, personally, prefer Quake3 over Quake2. If your system can swing it,
the Linux port there is a bit more mature, I think, and not fragmented.
It even supports a few of the mods, including the UrbanTerror mod (which
is quite popular). I've run quite a bit of Quake3 on my laptop in the
last year or so. It works very well.

There are other games supported well under linux... here's a list of my
games-fps (first person shooters) directory under Gentoo:

aaquake2 quake2-data rtcw
aaut quake2-relnev savagedemo
americas-army quake3 soldieroffortune
anaglyph-stereo-quake quake3-alliance tenebrae
avp-cvs quake3-alternatefire timestamp.x
blackshades-cvs quake3-cpma transfusion-bin
cube quake3-demo ttyquake
doomlegacy quake3-nsco unreal
duke3d quake3-osp unreal-tournament
enemy-territory quake3-ra3 unreal-tournament-bonuspacks
freedoom quake3-ruinhunters unreal-tournament-goty
industri quake3-threewave unreal-tournament-infiltration
legends quake3-truecombat unreal-tournament-strikeforce
lsdldoom quake3-urbanterror ut2003
nprquake-sdl quakeforge ut2003-demo
prboom red-blue-quake2 vendetta-test
quake1 rott wolfgl

If you like Puzzle games (I can't get enough of Marbles, myself):

4stattack fbg icebreaker mindless pingus wakkabox
atomix gemdropx kiki mirrormagic quadra xblockout
codebreaker greedy lpairs neverball quintalign xbomb
construo groundhog ltris neverputt tetrinet xwelltris
cuyo gtetrinet magiccube4d pathological timestamp.x
enigma gtkballs marbles penguzzle toppler

If you're interested in more games, I can email you (off-list) all the
games Gentoo has ebuilds for (which means you can get it working with
Mandrake, too, likely without too much hassle).

And, finally, if you're trying to really jumpstart your brain to get
yourself back in Computer mode, I think you might find Slackware a
better choice than Mandrake. If you're used to Unix, you'll probably
see a lot more you remember with Slackware, as well. It's a rock solid
distribution. It definitily doesn't waste your time trying to do
everything for you.

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"BG" <bobbygr@rcn.com> wrote in message
newspryaepqedv3b8tb@news.rcn.com...
> I was told by the mandrake people (i use mandrake linux) that slackware
> people could be of help.
>
> I'm having a tough time with Linux. I just went to transgaming.com and
> downloaded winex - to play games under linux.
>
> I always follow instructions exactly - but stuff never works for me. The
> problem I'm having now - when I try to install
> quake 2 under winex (which is a supported game) - I'm getting the
> following error:
>
> winex3 /mnt/cdrom/setup.exe
> Building font metrics. This may take some time...
> Done building font metrics
> [root@localhost bob]# wine: Unhandled exception, starting debugger...
>
> There is nowhere on the site to get support. I don't even begin to know
> how to debug or fix something like this.
>
> It's not just winex, either - this happens to me a lot with Linux
> software.
>
> I'm disabled. I used to be an os/390 systems programmer - I took cipro
> for a prostate infection and it did damage to my brain.
>
> I'm trying hard to get back functionality by working at Linux - but I
need
> help!
>
> I am willing to pay by check or paypal for assistance with this
problem -
>
>
> or any problem that I can't solve.
>
<snip>
Hi Bob-
Sorry to hear about your medical issues :-(. As far as WineX goes, you
mentioned you were using Mandrake and I'm hedging to bet on 9.2, the problem
with the recent builds of WineX (the downloadable binaries) are that they
have posix threading issues with the most recent glibc 3.2.3 IIRC, which
ships with slackware and I'm sure Mandrake... you can try using the
following command, winex3 --use-pthreads yes /blah/setup.exe and see if that
helps, if not, we may have to wait for WineX 3.2 which supposedly has a fix
for this, otherwise you'd be looking at recompiling glibc without pthread
support :-( <pain in the ass in my opinion>. I play most of the games I like
with their native Linux ports though as Athlon Rob mentioned, so you might
want to try that route as well =).

Good Luck!
Drew

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> On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:45:16 -0500, BG <bobbygr@rcn.com> wrote:
> > I always follow instructions exactly - but stuff never works for me. The
> > problem I'm having now - when I try to install
> > quake 2 under winex (which is a supported game) - I'm getting the
>
> Hi Bob-
>
> I don't have any answers for your WineX issues, unfortunately (I very
> rarely use Wine/WineX these days, and it is definitely a constantly
> evolving target)...
>
> However, I do a little bit of gaming here on my linux boxen. I actually
> have played Counterstrike (Half-Life engine game) under WineX, but only
> by following howtos and stuff. Primarily, though, when I game (lately
> anyway), I use games that are supported directly under Linux, or I...
> *ghasp*... boot in to Windows.
>
> Quake2 is not only a supported WineX/Transgaming game, it's also a game
> with a full Linux port. If you're interested in going that route, I can
> rip some URLs out of my Gentoo ebuilds for you. From the looks of it,
> though, I only have info on the "The Icculus linux port of ID's quake2
> engine" tied together with the data files from your quake2 CD. I
> haven't actually played Quake2 under Linux in the last... ohhh... I want
> to say five years, but that might be a little bit high. It's been since
> my Voodoo3 3000 was a top-of-the-line video card.
>
> I, personally, prefer Quake3 over Quake2. If your system can swing it,
> the Linux port there is a bit more mature, I think, and not fragmented.
> It even supports a few of the mods, including the UrbanTerror mod (which
> is quite popular). I've run quite a bit of Quake3 on my laptop in the
> last year or so. It works very well.
>
> There are other games supported well under linux... here's a list of my
> games-fps (first person shooters) directory under Gentoo:
>
> aaquake2 quake2-data rtcw
> aaut quake2-relnev savagedemo
> americas-army quake3 soldieroffortune
> anaglyph-stereo-quake quake3-alliance tenebrae
> avp-cvs quake3-alternatefire timestamp.x
> blackshades-cvs quake3-cpma transfusion-bin
> cube quake3-demo ttyquake
> doomlegacy quake3-nsco unreal
> duke3d quake3-osp unreal-tournament
> enemy-territory quake3-ra3 unreal-tournament-bonuspacks
> freedoom quake3-ruinhunters unreal-tournament-goty
> industri quake3-threewave unreal-tournament-infiltration
> legends quake3-truecombat unreal-tournament-strikeforce
> lsdldoom quake3-urbanterror ut2003
> nprquake-sdl quakeforge ut2003-demo
> prboom red-blue-quake2 vendetta-test
> quake1 rott wolfgl
>
> If you like Puzzle games (I can't get enough of Marbles, myself):
>
> 4stattack fbg icebreaker mindless pingus wakkabox
> atomix gemdropx kiki mirrormagic quadra xblockout
> codebreaker greedy lpairs neverball quintalign xbomb
> construo groundhog ltris neverputt tetrinet xwelltris
> cuyo gtetrinet magiccube4d pathological timestamp.x
> enigma gtkballs marbles penguzzle toppler
>
> If you're interested in more games, I can email you (off-list) all the
> games Gentoo has ebuilds for (which means you can get it working with
> Mandrake, too, likely without too much hassle).
>
> And, finally, if you're trying to really jumpstart your brain to get
> yourself back in Computer mode, I think you might find Slackware a
> better choice than Mandrake. If you're used to Unix, you'll probably
> see a lot more you remember with Slackware, as well. It's a rock solid
> distribution. It definitily doesn't waste your time trying to do
> everything for you.
>
> --
> Rob | If not safe,
> Email and Jabber: | one can never be free.
> athlonrob at axpr dot net |
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