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Old 02-18-2008, 08:40 PM
Bartosz Oudekerk
 
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Joost Kremers <joostkremers@yahoo.com> is thought to have
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> nothing, obviously. why do all these uninitiated keep bringing up goats? we
> don't do anything with goats. there is no such thing as a goat ritual. we
> also don't consume large amounts of psychotropic plants paint our bodies
> and dance naked around bonfires. we don't do that. ever. really we don't.
>

You forgot the bucket of lard, we don't do anything with that either.

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and kill them.
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:40 PM
Mike Denhoff
 
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Default Re: Three lilo questions (how to get off of FD, etc.).

On 01 Dec 2003 20:16:00 GMT
Bartosz Oudekerk <bartosz@see_my_GnuPG-key.com> wrote:


> What would a *non-BOZO* know about that particular horned animal I'm


Nothing really, just a *wanna be BOZO* uttering an empty threat.

> not allowed to mention?


Er, well, I thought it would be okay for a non-BOZO to mention that
animal.
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:40 PM
Bartosz Oudekerk
 
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Default Re: Three lilo questions (how to get off of FD, etc.).

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> On 01 Dec 2003 20:16:00 GMT
> Bartosz Oudekerk <bartosz@see_my_GnuPG-key.com> wrote:
>
>> What would a *non-BOZO* know about that particular horned animal I'm

>
> Nothing really, just a *wanna be BOZO* uttering an empty threat.
>
>> not allowed to mention?

>
> Er, well, I thought it would be okay for a non-BOZO to mention that
> animal.


I think, this being a first offence, it can be forgiven, but that's not
really for me to deceide. Only archbozo's can give you a full pardon
for mentioning that....... thing...

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and kill them.
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:40 PM
MikeyD
 
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Default Re: Three lilo questions (how to get off of FD, etc.).

Adams-Blake Company wrote:
> 1. How do I make a boot floppy in Slackware? Do I alreadyhave one? Is this
> the same as the lilo floppy I have (see next).


Simplest way is to run the CD setup program, select configure, and it
gives you an option to do that. The LILO floppy is one type of boot
floppy, there is iirc a simpler version available as well.
>
> 3. What is vga = 773 ? It's ugly as hell... but no big deal. Are any of the
> others "prettier" (I have a Samsung SyncMaster 172N LCD monitor with
> on-board video on a very new Intel mobo. It would be nice to see a "pretty"
> lilo screen so when I show others how Linux "works"... but no big deal.
> It's only "up" for a few seconds anyway. But first impressions can be
> important sometimes.


That's just the screen mode. Do you want to change that? In which case,
uncomment the line you prefer. You could choose more colourdepth or
bigger/smaller resolution. Or do you want to switch from the red box and
menu to one with a nice picture? In that case, su and run lilo -B
filename.bmp.

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Old 02-18-2008, 08:41 PM
Lew Pitcher
 
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Default Re: Three lilo questions (how to get off of FD, etc.).

Adams-Blake Company wrote:
> 1. How do I make a boot floppy in Slackware? Do I alreadyhave one? Is this
> the same as the lilo floppy I have (see next).


Your "lilo" floppy just has the equivalent of the MBR on it. So long as your
kernel doesn't move from it's current location on your hard drive, that floppy
will boot you into Linux.

However, the "lilo" floppy does /not/ have a bootable kernel on it. You can't
take that floppy and use it on a different computer to boot into Linux. To get
a floppy that has the kernel on it, you might try the /sbin/makebootdisk
program which will make a SYSLINUX boot (if you want) or a boot disk based on
your current kernel (SYSLINUX is a trimmed down kernel). Finally, if you
compile your own kernel, and have it trimmed down to just the essentials, you can
cd /usr/src/linux ; make bzdisk
and create a floppy boot of your specific kernel.

> 2. I don't boot often but I'm still using the floppy lilo. I have a typical
> 2 HD system with XP on hda. Will changing boot=/dev/fd0 to /dev/hda and
> then running lilo (or is it liloconfig?) as root write to the mbr of hda
> and get me off of the floppy? Or is it boot=/dev/hda1? Below is the
> lilo.conf file. (note I have 2 win4ln boots.... forget why. I use the
> win4linSL (SLackware).


It would be
boot = /dev/hda
to write the MBR of the boot drive

Your /etc/lilo.conf probably would look like...

# Start LILO global section
boot = /dev/hda
change-rules
reset
vga = normal
#---------------------------------------------------
# Linux bootable partition config begins
image = /boot/win4linSl
root = /dev/hdb1
label = linux
read-only
# Linux bootable partition config ends

(Don't forget to add the section to permit you to boot WinXP)

/sbin/lilo -v
will set the MBR appropriately.

Do this with caution. If this goes wrong, you'll /have/ to boot from your
floppy in order to fix it; you'll not be able to boot WinXP or Linux from the
HD if the /etc/lilo.conf is incorrect and you've installed LILO from it.



> 3. What is vga = 773 ? It's ugly as hell... but no big deal. Are any of the
> others "prettier" (I have a Samsung SyncMaster 172N LCD monitor with
> on-board video on a very new Intel mobo. It would be nice to see a "pretty"
> lilo screen so when I show others how Linux "works"... but no big deal.
> It's only "up" for a few seconds anyway. But first impressions can be
> important sometimes.


The documentation in your lilo.conf says that vga = 773 is "VESA framebuffer
console @ 1024x768x256". That's a framebuffer console (drawn in software, not
in hardware) that has a resolution of 1024x768 by 256 colours. A little dense
for me, but if you want it, you got it. OTOH, the lilo documentation says this...

VGA=<mode> Specifies the VGA text mode that should be selected when
booting. The following values are recognized (case is ignored):

NORMAL select normal 80x25 text mode.
EXTENDED select 80x50 text mode. The word EXTENDED can be
abbreviated to EXT.
ASK stop and ask for user input (at boot time).
<number> use the corresponding text mode. A list of available modes
can be obtained by booting with vga=ask and pressing [Enter].

I'd suggest changing it to something more acceptable to you. Even
vga = ask
would be OK.

> Thanks,
>
> Al
>
>
> # LILO configuration file
> # generated by 'liloconfig'
> #
> # Start LILO global section
> boot = /dev/fd0
> message = /boot/boot_message.txt
> prompt
> timeout = 1200
> # Override dangerous defaults that rewrite the partition table:
> change-rules
> reset
> # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x256
> vga = 773
> # Normal VGA console
> # vga = normal
> # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x64k
> # vga=791
> # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x32k
> # vga=790
> # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x256
> # vga=773
> # VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x64k
> # vga=788
> # VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x32k
> # vga=787
> # VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x256
> # vga=771
> # VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x64k
> # vga=785
> # VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x32k
> # vga=784
> # VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x256
> # vga=769
> # End LILO global section
> # Linux bootable partition config begins
> image = /boot/vmlinuz
> root = /dev/hdb1
> label = Linux
> read-only
> # Linux bootable partition config ends
> image = /boot/win4lin
> root = /dev/hdb1
> label = win4lin
> read-only
>
> image = /boot/win4linSl
> root = /dev/hdb1
> label = win4linSl
> read-only
> # WinForLin ends
> other = /dev/hda1
> label = windows
> table = /dev/hda
>



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Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing.

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Old 02-18-2008, 08:45 PM
Sysiphus
 
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Default Re: Three lilo questions (how to get off of FD, etc.).

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Mike Denhoff thought it a good use of my time to say:

>(Don't make me bring out the goat.)



LEAVE THE GOAT ALONE!!!!
You do not know of which you speak!

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and Suse must be the same thing since they both start with an 'S'. Well,
they aren't. From: Bartosz Oudekerk
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Old 02-18-2008, 08:46 PM
Ron Matthews
 
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Sysiphus <david@dad.me> wrote:
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> Mike Denhoff thought it a good use of my time to say:


> >(Don't make me bring out the goat.)


> LEAVE THE GOAT ALONE!!!!
> You do not know of which you speak!


Can you please explain to us why pgp was necessary for this post?

cordially, as always,

rm
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