Shawn Koons wrote:

> Could you kindly point me in the right direction?

Sure.. but first you'll have to tell me how you're trying to connect.
Are you using a modem? network card? cable/dsl/dialup?

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-alex49201

> TinyLinux and Tiny Linux are not the same thing. Sort of like
> QBasic and QuickBasic. Whoever came second should have pick
> a different name. See my post "TinyLinux/Tiny Linux/BasicLinux."

Yes.. yes.. you are correct.. But, since he did mention the distro he
was using was based on slack 4.0... Can't we just assume he meant to
say "Tiny Linux" (with the space).. It's not his fault the two separate
publishers named their distros so deceptively similar (purely
coincidentally, i'm sure though)..

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-alex49201

alex49201 <alex@ae.homelinux.com> says...

>since he did mention the distro he was using was based on
>slack 4.0... Can't we just assume he meant to say "Tiny Linux"
>(with the space)..

Alas, some people read a web page or newsgroup post mentioning
Tiny Linux, then download and install TinyLinux without realizing
that it isn't the same thing.

On Sun, November 30, Guy Macon <> lifted his fat cheek and posted:
>
>
>
> alex49201 <alex@ae.homelinux.com> says...
>
>>since he did mention the distro he was using was based on
>>slack 4.0... Can't we just assume he meant to say "Tiny Linux"
>>(with the space)..
>
> Alas, some people read a web page or newsgroup post mentioning
> Tiny Linux, then download and install TinyLinux without realizing
> that it isn't the same thing.
>

More and more, people are posting Slack questions on other Linux groups.

With _no_ crosspost to here.

Gee, I wonder why? Could it be they have an aversion to punks and assholes?

Jonathon DB

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On 2003-12-01, Jonathon DeBrett <jondb@lazzcom.net> wrote:
>
> More and more, people are posting Slack questions on other Linux groups.

Do you have numbers to substantiate this claim? That is, how many posts
that are *specific* to Slackware are being made to other newsgroups?
Note that something like "I'm having a problem with display resolution
in X" isn't a Slackware question, so counting posts like those to
comp.os.linux.x isn't allowed.

And why is it a bad thing for this newsgroup when people post Slackware
questions in other newsgroups? The newsgroup is still quite active, and
if the current readers are gaining benefits from the group, that's all
that really matters. If *you* feel you're not getting benefit from the
group, you can try to change its character (good luck) or leave. I
doubt anyone will care if you choose the latter.

> Gee, I wonder why? Could it be they have an aversion to punks and assholes?

But this was your first post. Perhaps you mean rm?

Now, do you actually have anything to contribute beyond complaints?

- --keith

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Shawn Koons <skoons1ns@netscape.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have installed TinyLinux on an old laptop. TinyLinux is based on
> Slackware 4.0 with Linux 2.2.6 kernel.
>
> I am limited to floppy disks to install. I have a Win98 machine where I
> have the downloaded install files for extra programs. Some of the
> programs are much larger than a single floppy, the problem is that I do
> not know how to copy these programs onto spanned set of floppies that
> can be read by the Linux box. If I can get them on the linux box, then I
> can install them and have a bit more versatility, such as being able to
> connect to the internet. I have downloaded a "UnixUtilities" which
> includes tar, but I cannot figure out how these *.exe programs work.

1. Find out if Windows can break up the file into manageable size.
Then, copy piece by piece, and reassemble, ie.
cat file1 file2 ... > bigfile

2. Setup Windows and TinyLinux so that you can send email between them.

3. Boot Linux (using floppy or CD) on the Windows machine, and copy the
files to floppy, ie.
tar -cMf /dev/fd0 /mnt/bigfile
And, on your laptop,
tar -xMf /dev/fd0

--
William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, <opengeometry@yahoo.ca>
Linux solution for data management and processing.

Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
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pgp trash troll delete

> On 2003-12-01, Jonathon DeBrett <jondb@lazzcom.net> wrote:
> >
> > More and more, people are posting Slack questions on other Linux groups.

> Do you have numbers to substantiate this claim? That is, how many posts
> that are *specific* to Slackware are being made to other newsgroups?
> Note that something like "I'm having a problem with display resolution
> in X" isn't a Slackware question, so counting posts like those to
> comp.os.linux.x isn't allowed.

This arrogance implicit in this paragraph, along with the arrogance
implied by the unnecessary use of pgp, should give you everything
you need to know about _why_ people are leaving.

cordially, as always,

rm

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:20:04 -0800,
Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
>
> But this was your first post.

Not really. That was Alan Connor.

It seems that Earthlink customers have some sort of user id added to
their Path headers. At the end of Alan Connor's posts and DeBrett's,
there is the following number:

Path: [...]!65807237!not-for-mail

If you compare headers with other Earthlink customers, you can see that
this number changes with different users.

'mark':
Message-ID: <2C0yb.28807$Wy4.12463@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net>
Message-ID: <8z2yb.26297$Rk5.1805@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink .net>

'Willaim Hamblem':
Message-ID: <cS9wb.11324$sb4.339@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink. net>
Message-ID: <rOzxb.19931$sb4.18075@newsread2.news.pas.earthlin k.net>

So, if the writing style is not enough to detect him, this should be
enough proof.

HTH. (And bad luck Alan).

--
Mark Hill <usenet@mark.ukfsn.org> (Yahoo address not read)
GPG KeyID: 4A3B58AC

Thank you all for helping. I have read a LOT, on the web and on the
Linux box and have figured out how to set up ppp (imagine that, I just
used "pppsetup"!). It even connected.

Now, does any one know how I can browse the net to get to the Tiny Linux
website. (yep, notice I separated the words. . . seems that when I made
the folder on the Windoze box, I eliminated the space.)

I see from looking at the install disks for network, I have the
following installed:

dip
elm
mailx
metamail
ppp
wget
netmods
tcpip

"man wget" reveals this is a program to access files on the net, but I
am not certain even after reading how to go about getting the files I need.

For instance:

How would I get the file

"prgm.zip" from the website:

http://tiny.seul.org/distrib/prgm.zip

And if I do manage to get the file to download, just where will it
download to on my machine? Is there a way to direct the incoming file to
a certain directory of my choosing?

Also, I read that I may need to put a password in to access an ftp site
such as w3m at:

ftp://ftp.firedrake.org/w3m/binary

where I would like to download the file
"w3m-991015-linux+glibc2.1.tar.gz", which is on that "page."

Again, how would I format this and direct it to a particular directory

Thanks

Shawn

btw, I am impressed with the quick, helpful responses as well as the
courtesy shown in this ng.


alex49201 wrote:

> Shawn Koons wrote:
>
>
>>Could you kindly point me in the right direction?
>
>
> Sure.. but first you'll have to tell me how you're trying to connect.
> Are you using a modem? network card? cable/dsl/dialup?
>

--
Mythology may, in a real sense, be defined as other people's religion.
And religion may, in a real sense, be understood as a popular
misunderstanding of mythology.

Joseph Campbell, Thou Art That

> How would I get the file
>
> "prgm.zip" from the website:
>
> http://tiny.seul.org/distrib/prgm.zip

To get a single file from the web to your machine, you can use the
'wget' utility. Run it from the directory where you want the file to
appear, normally your homedir for example:

# pwd #"pwd" print working dir
/home/alex
# wget http://tiny.seul.org/distrib/prgm.zip #download the file
# ls
prgm.zip
# unzip prgm.zip
# ls
prgm/ prgm.zip
# cd prgm/p1
# installpkg *.tgz


> download to on my machine? Is there a way to direct the incoming file

It will just go to whatever directory you're in at the time, assuming
you have write permission to the directory.. I'm sure there may be some
way to direct it else where... try "man wget"

> ftp://ftp.firedrake.org/w3m/binary

# wget ftp://usernameassword@ftp.firedrake.org/w3m/binary
w3m-991015-linux+glibc2.1.tar.gz

or you can use the "ftp" to actually 'browse' around the ftp server.

# ftp ftp.firedrake.org

then it will prompt you for your username/password (type in "anonymous"
if you don't have a username)

If you want to 'browse' the web in text mode, you'll need a web browser,
the most commom is "lynx" or "links", the second one has support for
html tables.. I normally use lynx, for the very rare browsing i do from
the command line.


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-alex49201