Keith Keller wrote:
> Don't forget die Kinderueberaschung.

Kinderueberraschung.

you make it sound like a superior way to incinerate children...

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Lars Hummigeret wrote:
>> cederom
> If you really *want* or *need* to use the supposed
> to be "academically approved" term thn you
> *must* use the accents:
> like this: cédérom

apparently the french will also spell "mél" for e-mail. very weird...

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Morgan Landry wrote:
> Why do you think that English has such special prevalence? Is it
> because the English-speaking countries thought up the word first, or

i sincerely hope you don't really believe that... ;-)

> is it because there's something special about English that makes other
> languages want to adopt words from it?

english has a special status: it is the lingua franca of the world. that
is, if a norwegian wants to talk to a japanese, he'll do so in
english. english acquired this status through no fault of its own; there is
nothing about english as a language that makes it more suitable for this
task.[1] other languages have held and still hold similar status in (parts
of) the world: french, german, latin, arabic, spanish, etc. etc.

english has this status because the US has become the dominant political,
military, economic and technological power in the world. (probably the fact
that the british empire spread english to all corners of the world helped
as well.) very often, the lingua franca of a certain area is the language
of the most powerful and wealthiest group in that area.



[1] actually, some may claim that that is not entirely true. basic english
grammar is rather straightforward: fixed word order, no complicated
declensions or conjugations. that makes it a lot easier to learn a handful
of english and use it (more or less) correctly than it is to learn arabic,
or even dutch. that may be a factor contributing to the adoption of english
as a lingua franca. but this is at best a facilitator. there are languages
with an even more straightforward grammar than english, but they didn't
become the lingua franca of the world.

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I send you the words in Basque language:



>
> 1) Internet

Internet

> 2) server

Serbitzari

> 3) program

programa

> 4) technology

teknologia

> 5) monitor

Monitore, Pantaila

> 6) keyboard

teklatua

> 7) mouse

xagu (sagu)

> 8) compact disc (CD)

disko konpaktu, disko trinko

> 9) digital video/versatile disc (DVD)

Bideo Digitala / DVD-a

> 10) hard drive

Disko Gogor / Disko finko

Txema

Hi there,

don't know if anyone has written up the German equivs, so here goes:

Morgan Landry <me@privacy.net> writes:

[...]

>The words are:

>1) Internet

das Internet

>2) server

der Server

>3) program

das Programm

>4) technology

die Technologie (as describing global concepts)
die Technik (as describing certain techologies, such as
encryption technology == Verschluesselungstechnik)

>5) monitor

Der Bildschirm

>6) keyboard

Die Tastatur

>7) mouse

die Maus

>8) compact disc (CD)

die CD (Compact Disc)

>9) digital video/versatile disc (DVD)

die DVD (digital versatile disc)

>10) hard drive

die Festplatte

(as 8 and 9 show, we Germans sometimes don't bother translating
termini technici at all and sometimes prefer to just use the
abbreviation in common use (e.g., I've never heard anyone
talking about a "digital versatile disc", except to explain
what DVD stands for.)

>I need these results as soon as possible, in case you were wondering.
>I could look all these words up on Babelfish, but I believe that a
>group effort will provide a much richer variety of languages.

>Thanks,
>Morgan

HTH
Martin

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create the universe." -- Carl Sagan, Cosmos

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|>>Morgan Landry wrote:
|>>| The words are:
|>>|
|>>Polish translation is:
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| I knew there had to be someone better than me to do this.
|

You have done quite well. Some spelling mistakes, but many native
Polish internet users are much worse
And I simply did not notice your post before I started writing my one.
regards - jkb


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Le Tue, 02 Dec 2003 09:54:08 +0000, Joost Kremers a écrit*:

>
> apparently the french will

Not much Just the "academic tarts" trying and distinct
them out for a new way of keeping our language elitist and unusable )

> also spell "mél" for e-mail. very weird...

In fact, the smart previously quoted genius(ses) thought it would
be nice to relate mail to phne, which is 'téléphone' abbr as 'tél'
thus this 'mél'.
they just forgot that 'mail' would be sounding mèl, certainly not 'mél'

Be quite sure no french uses this abnomynation

Lars Hummigeret wrote:
[mél for mail]
> Be quite sure no french uses this abnomynation

that makes me very glad to hear. ;-) i don't speak french, save for a word
or two, and only saw mél once or twice when i had a girlfriend that had
studied french. she claimed it was quite common...

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"Jacek K. B?aszkowski" <rainman@polbox.com> wrote:
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pgp trash troll delete

> Bartosz Oudekerk wrote:
> | Jacek K. BBaszkowski <rainman@polbox.com> is thought to have
> | typed the following text on 2003-12-01:
> |
> |
> |>>Morgan Landry wrote:
> |>>| The words are:
> |>>|
> |>>Polish translation is:
> |>>
> |
> | I knew there had to be someone better than me to do this.
> |

> You have done quite well. Some spelling mistakes, but many native
> Polish internet users are much worse

Your pgp survived the translation quite well. However, there is no
need for pgp in this post! Why would you squander internet
resources in this manner?

Please restrict the use of pgp to postings which require it.

cordially, as always,

rm

Le Tue, 02 Dec 2003 14:36:07 +0000, Joost Kremers a écrit*:

> [mél for mail]
>> Be quite sure no french uses this abnomynation
>
> that makes me very glad to hear. ;-)

Pleased to please you

> i don't speak french, save for a word
> or two, and only saw mél once or twice when i had a girlfriend that had
> studied french.

Well, I guess it shows

> she claimed it was quite common...

I reckon you may find it written in some mails from commershil people,
suits and like stuff, though as it is unpronouncable exept perhaps in
"smayle when you call me méèl, lynyrd", it won't ever be spoken