Just to clarify for newbies in the group:

A certain troll is currently hinting that the use of pgp is frowned
upon in this group. This is utter nonsense. There is a small (1 or 2)
amount of guys who for some or another reason do not like it.

The huge majority of people either think it is a good idea to sign posts,
especially to avoid being impersoned by this special troll, or just do not
care.

Have a nice day
Franz

--
Franz M. Sauerzopf
Atominstitut, TU Wien

Franz M. Sauerzopf <sauer@ati.ac.at> wrote:
> Just to clarify for newbies in the group:

> A certain troll is currently hinting that the use of pgp is
> frowned upon in this group. This is utter nonsense. There is a
> small (1 or 2) amount of guys who for some or another reason do
> not like it.

That is false. Where on earth do you get off calling _me_ a
"troll?" I am most certainly not a "troll" sir. And the
unwarranted use of pgp has long been a violation of not only this
group's policy but usenet netiquette in general.

> The huge majority of people either think it is a good idea to
> sign posts, especially to avoid being impersoned by this special
> troll, or just do not care.

Nice try, little one. But there are at most about a dozen people
who use pgp in this group while _hundreds_ of posters (including
even yourself) do not use it. The fact that you don't seem to care
should not be confused with everybody else's feelings about it
which have been made clear in the official group policy.

Furthermore, the unwarranted use of pgp does not prevent anyone
from impersonating the pgp troll, should anyone be inclined to do
so.

The unwarranted use of pgp speaks for itself.

cordially, as always,

rm

Franz M. Sauerzopf wrote:
> Just to clarify for newbies in the group:
>
> A certain troll is currently hinting that the use of pgp is frowned
> upon in this group. This is utter nonsense. There is a small (1 or 2)
> amount of guys who for some or another reason do not like it.
>
> The huge majority of people either think it is a good idea to sign posts,
> especially to avoid being impersoned by this special troll, or just do not
> care.

Completely ignore the ones who complain about pgp and don't reply
to them or worry about it.

--
Confucius: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with The Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org/
Slackware 9.1.0 Kernel 2.4.23 SMP i686 (GCC) 3.3.2
Uptime: 18 days, 14:50, 3 users, load average: 1.11, 1.21, 1.1

David <thunderbolt01@netscape.net> wrote:
> Franz M. Sauerzopf wrote:
> > Just to clarify for newbies in the group:
> >
> > A certain troll is currently hinting that the use of pgp is
> > frowned upon in this group. This is utter nonsense. There is a
> > small (1 or 2) amount of guys who for some or another reason do
> > not like it.
> >
> > The huge majority of people either think it is a good idea to
> > sign posts, especially to avoid being impersoned by this
> > special troll, or just do not care.

That's a lie. Just a simple google search will reveal that for
years a small group of people have been using pgp indiscriminately
over the objections of the other posters in this ng. The
unwarranted use of pgp is a well established breach of this ng's
policy.

> Completely ignore the ones who complain about pgp and don't reply
> to them or worry about it.

And we'll completely ignore _you._

Plonk!

cordially, as always,

rm

Franz M. Sauerzopf <sauer@ati.ac.at> says...
>
>Just to clarify for newbies in the group:
>
>A certain troll is currently hinting that the use of pgp is frowned
>upon in this group. This is utter nonsense. There is a small (1 or 2)
>amount of guys who for some or another reason do not like it.
>
>The huge majority of people either think it is a good idea to sign posts,
>especially to avoid being impersoned by this special troll, or just do not
>care.

You forgot to mention that the vast majority of alt.os.linux.slackware
participants think that we should all killfile the pgp troll, and
never, *never* reply to anything he writes. I don't see why anyone
would want to read post after post saying the same thing. Someone
writes that they can't get Slackware to run on a Belchfire 2000, and
the troll replies with "Speaking of the Belchfire 2000, why did you
sign your post with PGP?" It's the SAME ANSWER to every post. Who
here has time to read the same thing over and over? Who here has
time to read the same thing over and over? Who here has time to read
the same thing over and over? Who here has time to read the same
thing over and over? Who here has time to read the same thing over
and over?

--
Guy Macon, Electronics Engineer & Project Manager for hire.
Remember Doc Brown from the _Back to the Future_ movies? Do you
have an "impossible" engineering project that only someone like
Doc Brown can solve? My resume is at http://www.guymacon.com/

dcba@dcba.dcba.org wrote in message news:<ZggEb.15692$CK3.1339832@news20.bellglobal.co m>...
> David <thunderbolt01@netscape.net> wrote:
> > Franz M. Sauerzopf wrote:
> > > Just to clarify for newbies in the group:
> > >
> > > A certain troll is currently hinting that the use of pgp is
> > > frowned upon in this group. This is utter nonsense. There is a
> > > small (1 or 2) amount of guys who for some or another reason do
> > > not like it.
> > >
> > > The huge majority of people either think it is a good idea to
> > > sign posts, especially to avoid being impersoned by this
> > > special troll, or just do not care.
>
> That's a lie. Just a simple google search will reveal that for
> years a small group of people have been using pgp indiscriminately
> over the objections of the other posters in this ng. The
> unwarranted use of pgp is a well established breach of this ng's
> policy.
>
> > Completely ignore the ones who complain about pgp and don't reply
> > to them or worry about it.
>
> And we'll completely ignore _you._
>
> Plonk!
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm

just so I know not to do it in the future, exactly what is pgp?

TKS <dpenner1@nc.rr.com>

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Hash: SHA1

TKS wrote:
| dcba@dcba.dcba.org wrote in message
news:<ZggEb.15692$CK3.1339832@news20.bellglobal.co m>...
|
|>David <thunderbolt01@netscape.net> wrote:
|>
|>>Franz M. Sauerzopf wrote:
|>>
|>>>Just to clarify for newbies in the group:
|>>>
|>>>A certain troll is currently hinting that the use of pgp is
|>>>frowned upon in this group. This is utter nonsense. There is a
|>>>small (1 or 2) amount of guys who for some or another reason do
|>>>not like it.
|>>>
|>>>The huge majority of people either think it is a good idea to
|>>>sign posts, especially to avoid being impersoned by this
|>>>special troll, or just do not care.
|>
|>That's a lie. Just a simple google search will reveal that for
|>years a small group of people have been using pgp indiscriminately
|>over the objections of the other posters in this ng. The
|>unwarranted use of pgp is a well established breach of this ng's
|>policy.
|>
|>
|>>Completely ignore the ones who complain about pgp and don't reply
|>>to them or worry about it.
|>
|>And we'll completely ignore _you._
|>
|>Plonk!
|>
|>cordially, as always,
|>
|>rm
|
|
| just so I know not to do it in the future, exactly what is pgp?
|
| TKS <dpenner1@nc.rr.com>

Encryption/signing software designed to be easy to use, and to find ways
around the slow speed of the ciphers. Originally used the RSA and IDEA
ciphers. A pgp signature verifies that this post was sent by the same
person as the last post claiming to be from me, pgp encryption is a
cross between asymetric ciphers (aka private-key/public-key, originally
RSA), used to encrypt a random key for a symetric cipher (IDEA was
originally used), thus providing high security on low-end computers.

- --
Fred Emmott

Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely
unintentional side effect. --- Linus Torvalds
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"Franz M. Sauerzopf" <sauer@ati.ac.at> writes:

> Just to clarify for newbies in the group:
>
> A certain troll is currently hinting that the use of pgp is frowned
> upon in this group. This is utter nonsense. There is a small (1 or 2)
> amount of guys who for some or another reason do not like it.
>
> The huge majority of people either think it is a good idea to sign posts,
> especially to avoid being impersoned by this special troll, or just do not
> care.

Spot on - for the whys and wherefores Google on the message id in the
last line of my sig




Glyn
--
RTFM http://www.tldp.org/index.html
GAFC http://slackbook.yoshiwara.org.uk/
STFW http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...inux.slackware
GAFL Trolls - Google on "slrnbqimqr.189.Cibao@raven.home"

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:36:59 +0000, Fred Emmott
<pcfreak65@hotmail.com> wrote:

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>Hash: SHA1
>
>TKS wrote:
>| dcba@dcba.dcba.org wrote in message
>news:<ZggEb.15692$CK3.1339832@news20.bellglobal.c om>...
>|

>A pgp signature verifies that this post was sent by the same
>person as the last post claiming to be from me

huh?

>pgp encryption is a
>cross between asymetric ciphers (aka private-key/public-key, originally
>RSA), used to encrypt a random key for a symetric cipher (IDEA was
>originally used), thus providing high security on low-end computers.

pgp is a cross between what and what?

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Peter Matulis wrote:
| On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 16:36:59 +0000, Fred Emmott
| <pcfreak65@hotmail.com> wrote:
|
|
|>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
|>Hash: SHA1
|>
|>TKS wrote:
|>| dcba@dcba.dcba.org wrote in message
|>news:<ZggEb.15692$CK3.1339832@news20.bellglobal. com>...
|>|
|
|
|>A pgp signature verifies that this post was sent by the same
|>person as the last post claiming to be from me
|
|
| huh?
|
|
|>pgp encryption is a
|>cross between asymetric ciphers (aka private-key/public-key, originally
|>RSA), used to encrypt a random key for a symetric cipher (IDEA was
|>originally used), thus providing high security on low-end computers.
|
|
| pgp is a cross between what and what?

If you have pgp/gpg, you can tell that I am the same person as the
person who posted the last explaining message.

Second part was a more technical explanation.

Basically pgp provides security, privacy, and authentication.

It's roughly the same technology that you use when accessing a web page
beginning with https://

- --
Fred Emmott

Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft. That will just be a completely
unintentional side effect. --- Linus Torvalds
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