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Old 02-19-2008, 10:51 AM
Samuel Ace Winchenbach
 
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Hello Everyone,

I was just wondering what everyones thought was on TCPA / TCG. Here is a
site againt it: http://www.againsttcpa.com

Could this be the end of linux and/or the open source comunity? What is the
possibility of this actually happening?

Sam


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Old 02-19-2008, 10:51 AM
New Scotland Yard
 
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Samuel Ace Winchenbach wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was just wondering what everyones thought was on TCPA / TCG. Here is a
> site againt it: http://www.againsttcpa.com
>
> Could this be the end of linux and/or the open source comunity? What is the
> possibility of this actually happening?
>
> Sam
>
>


Since everything about Windos security sucks ass, how long do you think
it's going to be before all that DRM shit is cracked, and viruses start
infecting movie and music files and phoney certs are generated to allow
legal piracy?

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Old 02-19-2008, 10:52 AM
jpaulb
 
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:05:23 -0400, Samuel Ace Winchenbach wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was just wondering what everyones thought was on TCPA / TCG. Here is a
> site againt it: http://www.againsttcpa.com
>
> Could this be the end of linux and/or the open source comunity? What is the
> possibility of this actually happening?
>
> Sam

the next BS will be thin clients with your /home on a M$ server.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:52 AM
MikeyD
 
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> Hello Everyone,

I think we've been through this before. Several times.
>
> I was just wondering what everyones thought was on TCPA / TCG.


Never on my system.
>
> Could this be the end of linux and/or the open source comunity? What is
> the possibility of this actually happening?


There are people like me who want to be able to modify their computer
themselves. And there's a big enough number of us that there will always be
companies to supply us with hackable hardware and hackable operating
systems.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:53 AM
John
 
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Samuel Ace Winchenbach wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was just wondering what everyones thought was on TCPA / TCG. Here is a
> site againt it: http://www.againsttcpa.com
>
> Could this be the end of linux and/or the open source comunity? What is
> the possibility of this actually happening?
>
> Sam


Probably not much. Remember, Linux has corporate backing in the United
States and they won't stand by if something like this gets proposed. Then
there are legal problems, trade issues, etc.

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Old 02-19-2008, 10:53 AM
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Samuel Ace Winchenbach wrote:

> Could this be the end


.... <<< yawn >>>

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Old 02-19-2008, 10:53 AM
Michael Vondung
 
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Samuel Ace Winchenbach wrote:

> Could this be the end of linux and/or the open source comunity?


It is what will make Linux and Open Source more popular. If anything,
it's the beginning of the end. Microsoft's.

M.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:53 AM
Walter Mautner
 
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Samuel Ace Winchenbach wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was just wondering what everyones thought was on TCPA / TCG. Here is a
> site againt it: http://www.againsttcpa.com
>
> Could this be the end of linux and/or the open source comunity? What is
> the possibility of this actually happening?
>

Adding another layer of incompatibility, intended to actually control access
to information on a customers computer. In the end, a cash machine: you
will have to pay per view/listening for any song from digital radio, for
any movie you download. Well, you *maybe* trust the way the micro-payment
is done through a tcpa/ngscb equipped device, at least.
In fact, even governments, at least in Europe and the far East, fear and
contradict tcpa, because they will have no alternative as to adhere to the
standards given by market force. Then, there will be a small fee debited on
every opening of a office document, and office will be free instead.
Well, Openoffice isn't a "trusted application" and therefore cannot decode
MS office documents anymore (no access to the keys stored inside the
Fritzchip or successors.

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detected penguin patterns on mousepad. Partition scan in progress
*to*remove*offending*incompatible*products.**React ivate*your*MS*software.
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Old 02-19-2008, 10:54 AM
Daniel Rudy
 
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And somewhere around the time of 04/21/2004 05:05, the world stopped and
listened as Samuel Ace Winchenbach contributed the following to humanity:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I was just wondering what everyones thought was on TCPA / TCG. Here is a
> site againt it: http://www.againsttcpa.com
>
> Could this be the end of linux and/or the open source comunity? What is the
> possibility of this actually happening?
>
> Sam
>
>


It won't if Linux takes over because Linux doesn't support TCPA. So,
what will happen is that everyone will be running older hardware which
doesn't support TCPA, and because nobody will by the new stuff, you will
see alot of companies go out of business.

--
Daniel Rudy

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Old 02-19-2008, 10:55 AM
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New Scotland Yard wrote:
> Samuel Ace Winchenbach wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I was just wondering what everyones thought was on TCPA / TCG. Here is a
>> site againt it: http://www.againsttcpa.com
>>
>> Could this be the end of linux and/or the open source comunity? What
>> is the
>> possibility of this actually happening?
>>
>> Sam
>>
>>

>
> Since everything about Windos security sucks ass, how long do you think
> it's going to be before all that DRM shit is cracked, and viruses start
> infecting movie and music files and phoney certs are generated to allow
> legal piracy?
>


No

DMCA will be enforced at the *hardware* level not software

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