On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 04:20:45 +0000, Jonathan A. wrote:

> What do you use on the VT? A raw VGA console? The rivafb driver for
> framebuffer? Generic framebuffer? IIUIC, the problems that people have
> been reporting switching between X and the VC while running the NVIDIA
> proprietary drivers have generally been attributed to some conflict
> between the NVIDIA X driver and the rivafb driver.

> Anyone have comments on that? Anyone running a plain VGA console and
> *still* having problems? I'd like to know, because I've been holding
> off on upgrading to the newest version of the evil NVIDIA binary-only
> driver for just this reason but, if the VC switching problem truly
> doesn't affect those who run a raw VGA console, then I should be OK.

I have the FB in console capability compiled. IMHO the disadvantages of
using it outeigh the advantage of seeing the penguin. For one I prefer to
see *all* my boot messages as they scroll by and you lose some using VGA
mode. OTOH in regular test mode you can just hit SHIFT-Page Up and go to
the top of the messages. Dmesg does not give me the same exact output.

IOW, my logs in /var/log, shift-page up and dmesg all have slightly more
or less information. Shift-Page Up gives the most useful for my purposes.

Even worse is the damn splash screen that Mandrake uses. First thing I
did with that distro is get rid of that crap.

But the real issue is do you *need* VGA in a text console (not in
Xas they are resizable anyway). If so go for it. If not, IMO it's useless.

On 2004-06-01, Mateusz Marzantowicz <mateusz@webprog.ath.cx> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Could you tell me how long does it take to switch from XFree to X.org?
> Did you found any problems doing that?
> It's important for me because I'm very busy and don't know if it have a
> sence to do that.
>
> Thanks
Remove XFree86 and install X.org.
You can use the XF86Config file.
Rename it xorg.conf.

/Jens
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On 05-31-2004, in alt.os.linux.slackware,
dedhed <dedhed@pir2.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:21:06 +0000, Max wrote:
>
>> On 05-31-2004, in alt.os.linux.slackware,
>> Mark Hill <usenet@mark.ukfsn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 31 May 2004 15:45:03 GMT,
>>> Wild Wizard <yea@right.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> expect problems if you use the nvidia driver, when you quit X
>>>> the console colours are screwed up
>>
>>> I don't have this problem here. I'm using the nvidia driver with
>>> a TNT2 M64.
>>
>> Just what nvidia drivers are being discussed here?. The OSS
>> versions or the proprietary kernel tainting ones direct from
>> nvidia. I use the kernel tainting modules from nvidia here with
>> Xfree86. I'd indeed like to know what to expect with the nvidia
>> prop. drivers and x.org. Can anyone comment?
>>
>> Hopefully, by the time the next version of Slack shows up, issues
>> (if any) relating to nvidia and x.org will be cleared up.
>>
>> Max
>
> I use the NVIDIA drivers from NVIDIA and x.org and have had no ill
> effects at all. Everything works perfectly, just as it always
> did.

I don't live in that kind of fantasy world. I know better! Nothing
is perfect.

Thanks for the reply although.

Max

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On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 15:08:09 GMT,
Ron Gibson <rsgibson@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 04:20:45 +0000, Jonathan A. wrote:
>
>> What do you use on the VT? A raw VGA console? The rivafb driver for
>> framebuffer? Generic framebuffer?

I use the generic VESA framebuffer with the Nvidia.com binary-only
drivers. I don't find I have any problems with this combination.

> I have the FB in console capability compiled. IMHO the disadvantages of
> using it outeigh the advantage of seeing the penguin.

The FB also allows you to view pictures[1] and have graphics in console
applications [2].

[1] You can use fbi to view pictures: <http://linux.bytesex.org/fbida/>
[2] 'links -g -driver fb' will give you a graphical web browser.

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