I sure wish if in a future Slackware, the default Slackware
archive format were upgraded to tbz2 from the current tgz.

Package content has grown so much, that most stuff I see in
the Linux community is being repackaged using bzip2, rather
than the old gzip.

Sure save a lot of space grief if the pkgtool utilities were
modified to support both formats.

just a wish
TonyB

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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 23:05:05 +0000, Joaco wrote:
> I sure wish if in a future Slackware, the default Slackware archive
> format were upgraded to tbz2 from the current tgz.
>
> Package content has grown so much, that most stuff I see in the Linux
> community is being repackaged using bzip2, rather than the old gzip.
>
> Sure save a lot of space grief if the pkgtool utilities were modified to
> support both formats.

I start to rewriting pkgtools for using tbz2 format for my own usage. At
this moment i have too many other work, but soon i'll ssend link to it.

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Joaco wrote:

>
> just a wish
> TonyB
>

Me and everyone else have suggested this at one point in time or another. We
always get the same response - that bz2 is slower on old machines and it
would not save enough necessary to reduce the amount of discs in the
Slackware distribution.

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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 05:56:25 -0400, core_dump wrote:
> Me and everyone else have suggested this at one point in time or
> another. We always get the same response - that bz2 is slower on old
> machines and it would not save enough necessary to reduce the amount of
> discs in the Slackware distribution.

Yes, but remember that also is possible to make pkgtools that can use tgz
and also tbz2 packages. Then you get iso or packages from tgz mirror or
from tbz2 mirror. Like with kernel source, you can download tar.gz or
tar.bz2 archive.

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Joaco wrote :

> Package content has grown so much, that most stuff I see in
> the Linux community is being repackaged using bzip2, rather
> than the old gzip.

That because most stuff you see is source-code and when its pure text
there's a lot to gain from using bzip2 instead of gzip. But when it
comes to compressing stripped binaries the difference is only a few
percent.
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> I start to rewriting pkgtools for using tbz2 format for my own usage. At
>dependencynt i have too many other work, but soon i'll ssend link to it.

wouldn't moving to a new compression algorithm be a good chance to add some
dependancy checking? just a thought...

On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:48:04 +0100, Matthew Robinson wrote:

> wouldn't moving to a new compression algorithm be a good chance to add
> some dependancy checking? just a thought...

One of the reasons why I use Slackware is that it is not trying to be
smarter then me (any admin) expectenig the person who wants to do
something know who he/she is doing and how to do it.

Actually I'd strongly suggest to keep away from dependency checking just
to keep diversity and choice among distros. Who wants to have dependencies
checked can easiky use other distributions that have done it for some time
now and I guess they do it well.

Joaco <tonyb@bogus.net> wrote:
> I sure wish if in a future Slackware, the default Slackware
> archive format were upgraded to tbz2 from the current tgz.

We wouldn't win that many percents in compression on such a replacement.
However, like Slackware once replaced the floppies with CDs, maybe it
would be time to replace the CDs with DVDs? It would all fit on one DVD
and still leave room for new goodies like OpenOffice.

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Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote:
> Joaco <tonyb@bogus.net> wrote:
> > I sure wish if in a future Slackware, the default Slackware
> > archive format were upgraded to tbz2 from the current tgz.
>
> We wouldn't win that many percents in compression on such a replacement.
> However, like Slackware once replaced the floppies with CDs, maybe it
> would be time to replace the CDs with DVDs? It would all fit on one DVD
> and still leave room for new goodies like OpenOffice.

That would be good. But, I still want ability to boot from floppy and
install over NFS for installing on old machine.

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Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote:
>
> However, like Slackware once replaced the floppies with CDs, maybe it
> would be time to replace the CDs with DVDs? It would all fit on one DVD

Uh, no. I have yet to install Slackware on a machine that even has a
DVD reader. Maybe in another 5 years when computers without DVD readers
are as scarce as computers without CD readers are today.

- Kurt