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Old 02-19-2008, 12:24 PM
A-B C.
 
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Alan Hicks wrote:


> I think that's a huge reason many of us are here. I hate to speculate
> on Seasame Street's [0] reasons for being here, but the fact that this
> company he says he runs is (quote from www.adams-black.com) "a
> well-known and well-established contract programming and software
> consulting house" doesn't quite add up. Unless of course, he's mining
> for data here to include in one of their technical books (as they also
> do book publishing).


I thought I was in your kill file? I was hoping I would be.... so I would
avoid having to respond to stupid remarks like above.

Mr. Hicks, what do you do for a living? Last I heard, you were a pig farmer. I
don't know if it's true, but I like bacon and I like pork... and I would not
run-down your occupation or your company or your life-style or impugn your
integrity simply to win an argument on a newsgroup (or anywhere else.)

Just for the record, I'm 57 years old, married for 23 years to my first,
current, and very expensive wife, and hold a BA from U. of Virginia and an MA
from William and Mary.

I'm president of a small consulting firm in Sacramento, CA. We have a book
publishing division as well, but it has been dormant the past two years....
just looking to ramp it up again now that the economy is better.

I just finished a 2.5 year, $300,000 consulting assignment with the State of
CA. This was to implement a new platform for one of the state agencies. The
platform was MS ASP.Net. Go and yell all you want but it was the right tool
for the job... and that's what our company provides. The contract, the work
assignments, and the financials are all public knowledge, documented, and you
can easily verify with the Dept. of Gen. Services who keep track of
procurements like this.

I'm also the main developer of our JAYA123 web-application. (www.jaya123.com)
This is about 180,000 lines of PHP code running on Linux/Apache,MySQL (again,
the right tool(s) for the job.) I wrote about 80% of the code... nights and
weekends over the past two years. We charge $14.95 a month per user and our
subscription base continues to grow. It's a good system. It's not for EVERY
one of the 10 million (NPR's stats, not mine) small business out there, but
it fills the need for a lot of them.... especially small book publishers
(since we have "the best" royalty system around.) Before JAYA123 I wrote and
sold PUB123 (www.adams-blake.com) for years to the book pub biz. Check our
credentials in that industry and you will see that our software is
well-respected and has a respectable user-base.

In addition I'm the author of The Silver Pen, Words From Home, and
ComputerMoney: Making It In Tech Consulting. I also write a weekly syndicated
column targeted to the small publishing market (of about 20,000). (Those of
you who might have been at the Book Expo America two weeks ago in Chicago
where president Clinton introduced his new book to some 2000 of us might like
my BEA Diary:
http://www.adams-blake.com/item.php?...estyle=default
)

I've been programming since I joined Ross Perot's EDS in 1974 (call them if
you don't believe me) and of late, I've finally gotten rather good at it. I
opened my own company in 1979 and have not had a "real job" since.

Mr. Hicks, now that you know a bit about me, explain why you feel that I'm not
qualified to be a Slackware user and why you feel you need to denigrate me
and my company as a means of disagreeing with me over some inane topic?

I really don't want to fight with you. I compete with Random House and with
Intuit. Believe me, Mr. Hicks, you're small potatoes... and I can have you
for lunch anytime I wish. However, I prefer a civil discourse with you. I
don't understand why you (and a few others) are such assholes ALL THE TIME.

You know the old saying. "Everyone likes a little ass,... but no one likes a
wise ass." But Alan, you seem to be a PAIN IN THE ASS... and for the life of
me I simply don't understand why.

Please put me back in your killfile... and leave me there. Who has time for
this?

ANC.



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Old 02-19-2008, 12:24 PM
Dave Uhring
 
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:39:39 -0700, A-B C. wrote:

> You know the old saying. "Everyone likes a little ass,... but no one likes a
> wise ass." But Alan, you seem to be a PAIN IN THE ASS... and for the life of
> me I simply don't understand why.
>
> Please put me back in your killfile... and leave me there. Who has time for
> this?


Well put. Bravo!

That fool has been in my killfile for years.

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Old 02-19-2008, 12:24 PM
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>Please put me back in your killfile... and leave me there. Who has time for
>this?
>


Dear Mr. ANC,

Don't you get tired of tooting your own horn?

Sincerely,

Michael
--
michael (at) li7-123 (dot) members.linode.com
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:24 PM
Ondrej Kubecka
 
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:39:39 -0700, A-B C. wrote:

> Just for the record, I'm 57 years old, married for 23 years to my first,
> ...
> it. I opened my own company in 1979 and have not had a "real job" since.
> Mr. Hicks, now that you know a bit about me, explain why you feel that I'm
> not qualified to be a Slackware user...


Quite impressive, truly. But it still doesn't qualify you to be a
Slackware user if those are the words you would want to use. Even if I
would not talk about qualification myself. It's not about how good you
are and what you have achieved. There are some top IT specialists that use
Debiand, others go Solaris and some even Windows. Its just matter of
philosophy: if yours differs from that of Slackware and adheres to the one
of Debian (or others) why in the world would you want to use Slackware
that would act like Debian and not use Debian instead and let Slackware be
Slackware?

> I just finished a 2.5 year, $300,000 consulting assignment with the
> State of CA. This was to implement a new platform for one of the state
> agencies. The platform was MS ASP.Net. Go and yell all you want but it
> was the right tool for the job... and that's what our company provides.


You have even told us and I most gladly agree. Various assignments
require various approprient tools and solutions. Slackware is very good in
being Slackware but fails to be Debian and vice verse. But there is a good
use for both depending on what you need and what you want. From what I
have read I can tell: You do not want Slackware.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:24 PM
notbob
 
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On 2004-06-20, SchroedingerzKat <schroedingerzkat@aol.com> wrote:

> Don't you get tired of tooting your own horn?


He's got a PhD in horn tooting.

nb
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Be considerate of others and
trim your posts. Thank you.
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:24 PM
Alan Hicks
 
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This'll be my last proxy reply to A-B C. Sorry guys for feeding the
troll.

In alt.os.linux.slackware, Ondrej Kubecka dared to utter,
> On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:39:39 -0700, A-B C. wrote:
>
>> Just for the record, I'm 57 years old, married for 23 years to my first,
>> ...
>> it. I opened my own company in 1979 and have not had a "real job" since.
>> Mr. Hicks, now that you know a bit about me, explain why you feel that I'm
>> not qualified to be a Slackware user...


Explain to me why you are. Being of a certain age, being faithful to
your spouse, owning your own successful company, none of those things
are in the least a qualification for as a Slackware user. You want to
know why you're not qualified? Here you go.

http://www.lizella.net/slackware/philosophy.html

> It's not about how good you
> are and what you have achieved. There are some top IT specialists that use
> Debiand, others go Solaris and some even Windows. Its just matter of
> philosophy: if yours differs from that of Slackware and adheres to the one
> of Debian (or others) why in the world would you want to use Slackware
> that would act like Debian and not use Debian instead and let Slackware be
> Slackware?


Indeed. Linus Torvalds uses RedHat last I heard. He likes it; it fits
his philosophy. I don't personally like it as much as I do Slackware.
Linus Torvalds for all he's done, isn't a Slacker. He has a different
philosophy of "all I want to fool with is the kernel, so I'll use
whatever takes care of the rest the easiest for me". (Note that as Alan
Hicks, I can't speak personally for Linus Torvalds, that's just my
analysis of the data.)

>> I just finished a 2.5 year, $300,000 consulting assignment with the
>> State of CA.


One rule of usenet is to not make grandiose statements about how
excellent you are, regaurdless of whether or not they are factually
true. You just look like an ass when you do that. Personally I don't
give a damn if you can make a million dollar contract with the Martians
and complete it six months ahead of schedule. You want to be a Slacker,
get a set of balls and take some chances with your (testing) machine.
Solve problems on your own. The less you come here asking for help, and
the more you help people here, the closer to a Slacker you become.

You can tell some one's level of Clue not just by the questions they
ask, but by the way they ask their questions. You can tell if they
spend time trying to learn it on their own by providing non-trivial
hypotheses about what might be wrong. They ask for suggestions from
people when they step out in new territory, then take those suggestions
as a guide and walk out into unknown territory.

- --
It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:24 PM
Realto Margarino
 
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Alan Hicks <alan@lizella.network> wrote:
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> This'll be my last proxy reply to A-B C. Sorry guys for feeding the
> troll.


Sorry guys? There are no guys to you, doofus. You are universally
regarded as an arrogant little turd. You're all alone. All the
other turds got chased off. But that goes without saying because
you are a pgp trash troll.

cordially, even to trash trolls,

rm
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:24 PM
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Alan Hicks <alan@lizella.network> wrote:
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> This'll be my last proxy reply to A-B C. Sorry guys for feeding the
> troll.


> In alt.os.linux.slackware, Ondrej Kubecka dared to utter,
> > On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:39:39 -0700, A-B C. wrote:
> >
> >> Just for the record, I'm 57 years old, married for 23 years to my first,
> >> ...
> >> it. I opened my own company in 1979 and have not had a "real job" since.
> >> Mr. Hicks, now that you know a bit about me, explain why you feel that I'm
> >> not qualified to be a Slackware user...


> Explain to me why you are. Being of a certain age, being faithful to
> your spouse, owning your own successful company, none of those things
> are in the least a qualification for as a Slackware user. You want to
> know why you're not qualified? Here you go.


> http://www.lizella.net/slackware/philosophy.html


> > It's not about how good you
> > are and what you have achieved. There are some top IT specialists that use
> > Debiand, others go Solaris and some even Windows. Its just matter of
> > philosophy: if yours differs from that of Slackware and adheres to the one
> > of Debian (or others) why in the world would you want to use Slackware
> > that would act like Debian and not use Debian instead and let Slackware be
> > Slackware?


> Indeed. Linus Torvalds uses RedHat last I heard. He likes it; it fits
> his philosophy. I don't personally like it as much as I do Slackware.
> Linus Torvalds for all he's done, isn't a Slacker. He has a different
> philosophy of "all I want to fool with is the kernel, so I'll use
> whatever takes care of the rest the easiest for me". (Note that as Alan
> Hicks, I can't speak personally for Linus Torvalds, that's just my
> analysis of the data.)


> >> I just finished a 2.5 year, $300,000 consulting assignment with the
> >> State of CA.


> One rule of usenet is to not make grandiose statements about how
> excellent you are, regaurdless of whether or not they are factually
> true. You just look like an ass when you do that. Personally I don't
> give a damn if you can make a million dollar contract with the Martians
> and complete it six months ahead of schedule. You want to be a Slacker,
> get a set of balls and take some chances with your (testing) machine.
> Solve problems on your own. The less you come here asking for help, and
> the more you help people here, the closer to a Slacker you become.


> You can tell some one's level of Clue not just by the questions they
> ask, but by the way they ask their questions. You can tell if they
> spend time trying to learn it on their own by providing non-trivial
> hypotheses about what might be wrong. They ask for suggestions from
> people when they step out in new territory, then take those suggestions
> as a guide and walk out into unknown territory.


> - --
> It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
> Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
> Ecclesiastes 7:5
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Old 02-19-2008, 12:24 PM
Kenneth
 
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On 2004-06-19, A-B C. <atakeoutcanton@adams-blaketakeout.com> wrote:
>
> Alan Hicks wrote:
>
>
> I just finished a 2.5 year, $300,000 consulting assignment with the State of
> CA. This was to implement a new platform for one of the state agencies. The
> platform was MS ASP.Net. Go and yell all you want but it was the right tool
> for the job... and that's what our company provides. The contract, the work
> assignments, and the financials are all public knowledge, documented, and you
> can easily verify with the Dept. of Gen. Services who keep track of
> procurements like this.


Give me the contract number.


I'll like to see the specifics of the contract.

ken

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Old 02-19-2008, 12:24 PM
Realto Margarino
 
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Kenneth <Kenneth@pickone.anyone> wrote:
> On 2004-06-19, A-B C. <atakeoutcanton@adams-blaketakeout.com> wrote:


> > I just finished a 2.5 year, $300,000 consulting assignment with
> > the State of CA. This was to implement a new platform for one
> > of the state agencies. The platform was MS ASP.Net. Go and yell
> > all you want but it was the right tool for the job... and
> > that's what our company provides. The contract, the work
> > assignments, and the financials are all public knowledge,
> > documented, and you can easily verify with the Dept. of Gen.
> > Services who keep track of procurements like this.


> Give me the contract number.


Why?

> I'll like to see the specifics of the contract.


Why?

cordially, as always,

rm
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