On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 13:21:47 -0700, Dennis Kibbe wrote:

> chris king <phiber@slackwaresupport.com> wrote in message
> news:<pan.2004.06.25.13.35.49.261584@slackwaresupp ort.com>...
>> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 12:42:18 +0000, Ann wrote:
>>
>> > On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:33:43 -0500, Scott Cole wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2004-06-25, chris king <phiber@slackwaresupport.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> acually. me and pat email each other all the time.
>> >>>
> <SNIP>
>> >>>
>> >> What exactly is the point of this post. To let us know that Pat V.
>> >> responded to an email. I certainly don't see any reference to you
>> >> using the slackware name for your own site.
>> >
>> > Nor that permission was asked-for/received to post the email to a
>> > public forum.
>> >
>> > Also, the "Slackware linux" logo on your website is remarkably similar
>> > to the original on the official Slackware website. No indication that
>> > permission was give to use it and it's not used as a link to the
>> > Slackware website.
>> >
>> > I don't see anything wrong with having a website about Slackware;
>> > there are many websites about MS Windows. But imo you should not be
>> > using copyrighted material without permission and you should have a
>> > disclaimer on your website. And, since you are selling advertising, a
>> > policy to contribute a percentage to the Slackware project would be
>> > appropriate.
>>
>> There ya go..
>
> Come on, Chris. Do the right thing, change the site name.
>
> Dennisk


the right thing? its just a name. its a support site for slackware linux.
what support-for-slackware.com?

chris king wrote:

> the right thing? its just a name. its a support site for slackware
> linux. what support-for-slackware.com?

It is more than a name, it is a registered trademark, if you click on
the small part at the foot of the page on the www.slackware.com
web site yoiu will find this warning, I have only quoted the parts that
appear to be relevant :

"...3. Except by written permission from Slackware Linux, Inc., the
Slackware trademark may not be used as (or as part of) a product name,
company name, or registered domain name.

4. Any approved use of "Slackware" must be followed by a circle-R, and
must acknowledge our ownership of the mark..."

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Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
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> On 2004-06-24, chris king <phiber@slackwaresupport.com> wrote:

> [25 needlessly quoted lines snipped]

> > because slackware is the only distro that is worth a damn. if need be i
> > can setup a news server or mailman.

> You can't even trim appropriately, and you think you're going to
> be able to set up a news server? And you've yet to answer the
> question: why would Slackware users need Yet Another Slackware
> newsgroup? If you're trying to persuade people to use your site,
> you need to provide something to compel us to do so; we're not
> going to use your site just because you told us about it.

> - --keith

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"Two Ravens" <tworavens$$@eudoramail.$$com> wrote in message
news:1088196339.47523.0@dyke.uk.clara.net...
> chris king wrote:
>
> > the right thing? its just a name. its a support site for slackware
> > linux. what support-for-slackware.com?
>
> It is more than a name, it is a registered trademark, if you click on
> the small part at the foot of the page on the www.slackware.com
> web site yoiu will find this warning, I have only quoted the parts that
> appear to be relevant :
>
> "...3. Except by written permission from Slackware Linux, Inc., the
> Slackware trademark may not be used as (or as part of) a product name,
> company name, or registered domain name.
>
> 4. Any approved use of "Slackware" must be followed by a circle-R, and
> must acknowledge our ownership of the mark..."

Does that mean I have to have their permission to put something like
"Powered by Slackware(R)" on my website?

Thanks,
Rich

Rich Grise wrote:


> Does that mean I have to have their permission to put something like
> "Powered by Slackware(R)" on my website?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
If I remember correctly there are a number of Slackware Propganda logos
banners etc available for use on the Slackware site, here:
http://www.slackware.com/~msimons/slackware/grfx/
--
Two Ravens
"...hit the squirrel..."

Rich Grise wrote:

> Does that mean I have to have their permission to put something like
> "Powered by Slackware(R)" on my website?

You can get the proper ® from the Character Selector that comes with
KDE, I don't know what's available with any of the other wm's desktops
as I don't use them. I do have a friend who is a Patent/Trademark
Copyright attourney, but we are both in England so the law may not be
the same.

--
Two Ravens
"...hit the squirrel..."

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"Rich Grise" <null@example.net> wrote:

> Does that mean I have to have their permission to put something like
> "Powered by Slackware(R)" on my website?

Legally, yes. But then, legally you aren't allowed to tape a TV show
without permmission. I doubt Pat will do something that basically
qualifies as Slackware propoganda. I'd guess that he's more
concerned about people hijacking the name and then muscling him off
his own intellectual property.

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George Georgakis <geeg@tripleg.go.away.spammers.net.au> wrote:
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> "Rich Grise" <null@example.net> wrote:

> > Does that mean I have to have their permission to put something like
> > "Powered by Slackware(R)" on my website?

> Legally, yes. But then, legally you aren't allowed to tape a TV show
> without permmission. I doubt Pat will do something that basically
> qualifies as Slackware propoganda. I'd guess that he's more
> concerned about people hijacking the name and then muscling him off
> his own intellectual property.

> - --
> George Georgakis geegATtripleg_net_au http://www.tripleg.net.au/
> SlackBuild Central - http://slackpack.tripleg.net.au/

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Rich Grise <null@example.net> says...
>
>"Two Ravens" <tworavens$$@eudoramail.$$com> wrote...
>>
>> It is more than a name, it is a registered trademark, if you click on
>> the small part at the foot of the page on the www.slackware.com
>> web site yoiu will find this warning, I have only quoted the parts that
>> appear to be relevant :
>>
>> "...3. Except by written permission from Slackware Linux, Inc., the
>> Slackware trademark may not be used as (or as part of) a product name,
>> company name, or registered domain name.
>>
>> 4. Any approved use of "Slackware" must be followed by a circle-R, and
>> must acknowledge our ownership of the mark..."
>
>Does that mean I have to have their permission to put something like
>"Powered by Slackware(R)" on my website?

No permission required. That usage is using the trademarked Slackware
name to refer to Slackware itself, not some product or service of yours.

Whether the (R) (or a proper trademark symbol or "Slackware is a registered
trademark of..." or other variations) is required is less clear. Some web
sites just put "All trademarks used on this web site are the the property of
their respective owners" buried in a "legal" page.


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On 26 Jun 2004 13:46:41 +0800,
George Georgakis <geeg@tripleg.GO.AWAY.SPAMMERS.net.au> wrote:
> "Rich Grise" <null@example.net> wrote:
>
>> Does that mean I have to have their permission to put something like
>> "Powered by Slackware(R)" on my website?
>
>I doubt Pat will do something that basically
> qualifies as Slackware propoganda. I'd guess that he's more
> concerned about people hijacking the name and then muscling him off
> his own intellectual property.

Judging by <http://slackware.com/trademark/trademark.php> I would agree.
It looks like he's more concerned about distro spin-offs than anything
else.

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Mark Hill <mrhill@gmail.com>