Hi, I am installing Slackware 10.0, and I have installed many recent
versions of Slackware.

I live in teh UK, there seems to be about 10 different timezones that
I could use. I want to have the hardware clock set to UTC (I have
heard that is the correct thing to do) and have a timezone file in use
that is correct for the UK, including the current daylight saving
time. How do you tell which one to use for the UK? What is the
difference between GMT+0 GMT-0 GMT+-0 ?! Do I have to manually set it
to GMT+1 in the summer and back in the winter?

Sam
SW newb

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 17:02:17 +0100,
Sam <a@b.c> wrote:
>
> I want to have the hardware clock set to UTC
....
> How do you tell which one to use for the UK? What is the
> difference between GMT+0 GMT-0 GMT+-0 ?! Do I have to manually set it
> to GMT+1 in the summer and back in the winter?

I'm not too sure what you're looking at, so here's how I configured my
system:

o As root, set time with 'date --set' E.G: 'date --set=1739' or set
through the BIOS.
o Run timeconfig as root, say yes to the first UTC question then set
time to Etc/UTC on second question.
o As a user, add the following to your .profile or add to /etc/profile

TZ='Europe/London'; export TZ

(I get the above variable info from running tzselect.)

BST/GMT time is automagically adjusted when the hour goes forward/back.

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Sam wrote:

> Hi, I am installing Slackware 10.0, and I have installed many recent
> versions of Slackware.
>
> I live in teh UK, there seems to be about 10 different timezones that
> I could use.

The whole freakin' country isn't big enough for even one whole time
zone - how in hell do they get 10??!?!?!??

Railroad time?
tea time?
lunch time?
siesta time?
break time?
down time?
compile time?
run time?
Paddington time?
Left Elbow Scratch time?
????
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Cheers!
Rich

Rich Grise wrote:

> Railroad time?
> tea time?
> lunch time?
> siesta time?
> break time?
> down time?
> compile time?
> run time?
> Paddington time?
> Left Elbow Scratch time?
> ????

Time gentlemen, please! Come on now, drink up.

Blumf

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:50:41 GMT,
Blumf <blumf@hot.mail.com> wrote:
>
> Time gentlemen, please! Come on now, drink up.

Posted at last orders too. Nice one.


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In article <4agqf0prlg59j79jv5lj6k85koo02fpu8r@4ax.com>, Sam <a@b.c> wrote:
>Hi, I am installing Slackware 10.0, and I have installed many recent
>versions of Slackware.
>
>I live in teh UK, there seems to be about 10 different timezones that
>I could use. I want to have the hardware clock set to UTC (I have
>heard that is the correct thing to do) and have a timezone file in use
>that is correct for the UK,

I simply use the GB zonefile. GB, GB-Eire and Europe/London are all the
same timezone file. Why there are so many different ones I assume is
historic. /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime is a symlink to /etc/localtime,
and that's just a copy of the /usr/share/zoneinfo/GB (though I could
make it a symlink).

> including the current daylight saving
>time. How do you tell which one to use for the UK? What is the
>difference between GMT+0 GMT-0 GMT+-0 ?! Do I have to manually set it
>to GMT+1 in the summer and back in the winter?

No. Though you are right in assuming the GMT timezones will fix your
clock permanently to GMT (i.e., no BST). GMT, GMT+0, GMT-0 and GMT0 are
all identical (cd /usr/share/zoneinfo; ls -li GMT*; look at the inode
on the left hand side and you'll see they're identical).

Chris...

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On 20 Jul 2004 22:05:29 GMT, Mark Hill <mrhill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:50:41 GMT,
>Blumf <blumf@hot.mail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Time gentlemen, please! Come on now, drink up.
>
>Posted at last orders too. Nice one.

Brilliant ^_^

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 23:16:13 +0100, chris@bubbles.townsville () wrote:

>In article <4agqf0prlg59j79jv5lj6k85koo02fpu8r@4ax.com>, Sam <a@b.c> wrote:
>>Hi, I am installing Slackware 10.0, and I have installed many recent
>>versions of Slackware.
>>
>>I live in teh UK, there seems to be about 10 different timezones that
>>I could use. I want to have the hardware clock set to UTC (I have
>>heard that is the correct thing to do) and have a timezone file in use
>>that is correct for the UK,
>
>I simply use the GB zonefile. GB, GB-Eire and Europe/London are all the
>same timezone file. Why there are so many different ones I assume is
>historic. /usr/share/zoneinfo/localtime is a symlink to /etc/localtime,
>and that's just a copy of the /usr/share/zoneinfo/GB (though I could
>make it a symlink).
>
>> including the current daylight saving
>>time. How do you tell which one to use for the UK? What is the
>>difference between GMT+0 GMT-0 GMT+-0 ?! Do I have to manually set it
>>to GMT+1 in the summer and back in the winter?
>
>No. Though you are right in assuming the GMT timezones will fix your
>clock permanently to GMT (i.e., no BST). GMT, GMT+0, GMT-0 and GMT0 are
>all identical (cd /usr/share/zoneinfo; ls -li GMT*; look at the inode
>on the left hand side and you'll see they're identical).
>
>Chris...

Yes, I thought it would be for historical reasons, I just thought it
was a strange thing to keep around. I'm not going need the tzinfo
solution, it looks tricky, using timeconfig to set the timezone to GB
seems to work enough, and I'll use the BIOS software to set the system
clock.

Sam

Rich Grise wrote:

> Sam wrote:
>
>
>>Hi, I am installing Slackware 10.0, and I have installed many recent
>>versions of Slackware.
>>
>>I live in teh UK, there seems to be about 10 different timezones that
>>I could use.
>
>
> The whole freakin' country isn't big enough for even one whole time
> zone - how in hell do they get 10??!?!?!??
>
> Railroad time?
> tea time?
> lunch time?
> siesta time?
> break time?
> down time?
> compile time?
> run time?
> Paddington time?
> Left Elbow Scratch time?
> ????

I don't know about the rest but BST has to be the most out-dated concept
on the planet (The USA has similair doesn't it, DST?). I don't know if
this is the official answer but I'm sure it was coined up so that the
farmers get an extra hour of daylight to do their work. Come on its
2004, haven't they heard of Flashlights/torches yet?

Scrap BST, better for the sleeping pattern

Regards

Lee.

Mark Hill wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 21:50:41 GMT,
> Blumf <blumf@hot.mail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Time gentlemen, please! Come on now, drink up.
>
> Posted at last orders too. Nice one.
>
They shut down at 10 PM over there?

Cheers!
Rich