On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 00:01:32 GMT, res <suse.rtoledo@spamgourmet.com>
wrote:

>On 17 Aug 2004 09:33:21 -0700, szcs@abuse.co.uk (Sz. Csetey) wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>Mark Burgo <mfburgo@atlanticbb.net> wrote in message
>>> First, You should have searched google groups or the suse site. In version
>>> 9.1 of suse ( actually it is a kernel 2.6 issue ) there was an issue with
>>> repartitioning NTFS file systems.
>>
>>It's not NTFS related because sometimes it happens on FAT32 too and
>>even if one used commercial partitioner before installation or a
>>second disk. Parted corrupts the partition table on 2.6 kernels.
>>
>>SUSE fix:
>>http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/0...booting91.html
>>
>>Parted fix:
>>http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bu.../msg00046.html
>>
>>> The problem you ran into has happened to
>>> many and the Suse Support Database has a write up on the problem. The
>>> actual issue is ( if I remember correctly ) the 2.6 kernel and versio of
>>> parted with suse 9.1 reports the wrong fs type and sets it incorrectly on
>>> the disk. This causes the partion to be un bootable via grub or lilo...
>>
>>Parted changes the geometry in the partition table therefore Windows
>>can't boot anymore in some rare cases. Not even if it's reinstalled.
>>
>>> Second, If you ever need to get the windows MBR back boot into Windows from
>>> the CD exit the install process and run fdisk /MBR. This rewrites the MBR
>>> to the windows standard.
>>
>>Rewriting the MBR doesn't help because the problem is the corrupted
>>partition table. But the above SUSE fix should work.
>
>Is it possible to downlaod this 1.6.12 ? and find wich of the 5 cd's
>holds this program and re-burn a new cd with the new file in it like
>they do with Windows slip streaming a SP2 release?
>
>
>PS. after reading those 2 links posted by you helpful folks, I went
>back and rebooted and checked my BIOS and it seems it's on AUTO and
>when I change it to LBA on the clean new install/repartition I just
>did the geometry is seen differently and the machine will not BOOT.
>
> I tought that BIOSes changed years ago to the default of LBA,
>and that is how they dealt with these huge drives, AAMOF one the
>BIOS updates at Iwill for the MPX2 (this machine) is for updating it
>to see larger drives. Anyways looks like I can start fresh one more
>time with the BIOS in LBA and repartion/install it all or gamble and
>re-burn a CD with the correct PARTED and see if IT gets along with the
>AUTO setting and then if that fails start with a fresh repartitioning
>in LBA.
>
>any more positive advice is welcomed.
>
>thanks to all that have given your valuable advice. since I set these
>messages with the x-no archive OFF future searches on this subject
>in GOOGLE will be easier to find I hope


Sorry for the post on post, but I left out a observation and need
advice/opinions.

I noticed parted 1.6.12 looks to me as if it was released August
16, 2004, YET the Suse site points to a download work around that,
which I downloaded and when I open the .iso and look in

linux\i386-9.1\install\instsys\usr\lib\libparted-1.6.so-006

it's dated 05/19/2004 and the name does not include the 12 in the
build name

is this a PRE- 12 workaround ??

I looked around at http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/gnu/parted/ and it
shows a date of 8/16/2004

I looked around at Suse's ftp site but did not find a parted file at
all.

On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 10:03:46 GMT, "Luc" <luc.rems@nospam_pi.be> wrote:

>
>"res" <suse.rtoledo@spamgourmet.com> wrote in message
>news:b3g2i09vfl3jvs20rci5k96d2clo3bjose@4ax.com.. .
>> Hello everyone, I thought I would share my experiences
>> with Suse Linux 9.1.
>>
>> Before I do, I want you to know that I searched a lot thrugh
>> GOOGLE, for GRUB howto's , read the man pages, and on several online
>> forums. From what I found it seems the "usual" problem is where
>> Windows trashes GRUB and you can't boot into LINUX or GRUB IS SOMEHOW
>> CORRUPTED.
>>
>> My problem is the OPPOSITE, GRUB boots up and it can boot into
>> Linux, but can NOT boot Windows. Now most Linux users will tell me
>> hey that's not a problem , but it is.
>
><snip rest>
>
>
>Go into your PC's BIOS and change the hard disk configuration from AUTO to
>LBA mode.
>This should fix the problem.
>

here's an update. I left the BIOS in the AUTO setting and downlaoded
the SUSE patch from
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/upd...1/misc/parted/

which is discussed here

http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/0...booting91.html

I tried installing Suse doing the F6 and a image burnt on a CD and
loaded the PARTED driver from the top lonk above

when Suse tries to re-boot after installing the base from the fist CD,
it comes up with the grub command and won't go any further.

I went ahead and rebooted and grub> comes up with NO MENU at all.

I then typed

rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1
boot

Windows boots up fine and I am posting this way.

when I try to grub> find /boot/vmlinuz

I get a error not found, when I try

root (hdo,5)

I immediately get a error 18: selected cylinder exceeds maximum
supported by BIOS

I also tried root (hd0,6) (just in case and same error 18)

so maybe this week end I will do the BIOS back to LBA and start fresh
one more.

I put this out so you all know, that the version at the SUSE site
might not be as robust or the same level .12 that was just posted a
couple of days ago, since I did not find IT at the suse FTP site , I
will just do the fresh and not know whether this .12 REALLY fixes
this incompatability.

thanks to all again

>
> ps. I've been installing many Linux distributions lately, and I must
> say SUSE really looks good except for this MBR fiasco, is this a GRUB?
> thing? would LILO be any safer?
>
> should I just make a boot floppy and burn that image to a cd?
>

I am brand new to Linux. I have tried Red Hat for about a week, but
could not get on the net. That was three or four years ago. I was still
retarded to the Windows environment. Anyways, I have a duel boot system
(WinXP and SuSE) myself and instead of the GRUB try using LILO. I have
not had one issue in roughly a month now since I have started using
SuSE. I got on the net.
Pat

Leo (Bing) Whiteway wrote:
> res wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone, I thought I would share my experiences
>> with Suse Linux 9.1.
>>
> Do you realize this is a SLACKWARE group?
>
> <snip>
>
Wrong group bub:-)
Pat

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 04:01:28 -0500, patc6 <patc6@cox.net> wrote:

>
>>
>> ps. I've been installing many Linux distributions lately, and I must
>> say SUSE really looks good except for this MBR fiasco, is this a GRUB?
>> thing? would LILO be any safer?
>>
>> should I just make a boot floppy and burn that image to a cd?
>>
>
>I am brand new to Linux. I have tried Red Hat for about a week, but
>could not get on the net. That was three or four years ago. I was still
>retarded to the Windows environment. Anyways, I have a duel boot system
>(WinXP and SuSE) myself and instead of the GRUB try using LILO. I have
>not had one issue in roughly a month now since I have started using
>SuSE. I got on the net.
>Pat

thanks, I've found a cure too, enjoy Linux