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Old 02-19-2008, 02:52 PM
Scott Eberl
 
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OK this is really starting to piss me off, A LOT. I had a cheapo 2
computer kvm switch with built in cables and it worked great switching
between my windows 2000 box and my slackware box. For my birthday a
buddy bought me a 4 computer kvm switch so I could switch between my
windows 2000, and 2 linux boxes. Well the fucked up thing is it doesnt
work correctly. If i switch over to the linux box and its in a terminal
with no X running I can type just fine and do anything but if I start X
I lose the keyboard and mouse. Nothing has changed from when the 2
computer kvm was working just fine with this setup. Is there some reason
this kvm would refuse to allow the keyboard/mouse to work through it?
Can I change something? Im about to switch back to the 2 port junker but
it seems a little sad to have to go from a nicer switch to a cheaper one
because it works. Im stumped since it does seem to allow the keyboard to
work only shits when I start X which makes me think its somehow a driver
issue with X or an incompatabity which seems rare since the settings
worked just fine with the previous 2 port kvm.

Please help this is driving me up the fucking wall and I need to be able
to switch back and fourth between win2k and X on the linux box
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:52 PM
Stanislaw Flatto
 
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Scott Eberl wrote:

>OK this is really starting to piss me off, A LOT. I had a cheapo 2
>computer kvm switch with built in cables and it worked great switching
>between my windows 2000 box and my slackware box. For my birthday a
>buddy bought me a 4 computer kvm switch so I could switch between my
>windows 2000, and 2 linux boxes. Well the fucked up thing is it doesnt
>work correctly. If i switch over to the linux box and its in a terminal
>with no X running I can type just fine and do anything but if I start X
>I lose the keyboard and mouse. Nothing has changed from when the 2
>computer kvm was working just fine with this setup. Is there some reason
>this kvm would refuse to allow the keyboard/mouse to work through it?
>Can I change something? Im about to switch back to the 2 port junker but
>it seems a little sad to have to go from a nicer switch to a cheaper one
>because it works. Im stumped since it does seem to allow the keyboard to
>work only shits when I start X which makes me think its somehow a driver
>issue with X or an incompatabity which seems rare since the settings
>worked just fine with the previous 2 port kvm.
>
>Please help this is driving me up the fucking wall and I need to be able
>to switch back and fourth between win2k and X on the linux box
>
>

A motto I composed few days ago(tm) " If it ain't broke, upgrade!".
Join the club ;-) it is VERY free membership.

Have fun

Stanislaw
Slack user from Ulladulla.
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:52 PM
Grant
 
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Hi

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:40:23 GMT, Stanislaw Flatto
<compaid@shoalhaven.net.au> wrote:

> Scott Eberl wrote:
>

[snip]
> >
> >Please help this is driving me up the fucking wall and I need to be able
> >to switch back and fourth between win2k and X on the linux box
> >
> >

> A motto I composed few days ago(tm) " If it ain't broke, upgrade!".
> Join the club ;-) it is VERY free membership.
>

Is using a terminal an option?

o PuTTY ssh terminals on windows to the linux box.

o Lightweight X, say IceWM, over a VNC link.


Cheers,
Grant.

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Old 02-19-2008, 02:52 PM
Jim
 
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:02:04 +0000, Scott Eberl wrote:

> OK this is really starting to piss me off, A LOT. I had a cheapo 2
> computer kvm switch with built in cables and it worked great switching
> between my windows 2000 box and my slackware box. For my birthday a
> buddy bought me a 4 computer kvm switch so I could switch between my
> windows 2000, and 2 linux boxes. Well the fucked up thing is it doesnt
> work correctly. If i switch over to the linux box and its in a terminal
> with no X running I can type just fine and do anything but if I start X
> I lose the keyboard and mouse. Nothing has changed from when the 2
> computer kvm was working just fine with this setup. Is there some reason
> this kvm would refuse to allow the keyboard/mouse to work through it?
> Can I change something? Im about to switch back to the 2 port junker but
> it seems a little sad to have to go from a nicer switch to a cheaper one
> because it works. Im stumped since it does seem to allow the keyboard to
> work only shits when I start X which makes me think its somehow a driver
> issue with X or an incompatabity which seems rare since the settings
> worked just fine with the previous 2 port kvm.


I had a similar problem with a Belkin Omni switch a few years ago. What
I found was in X the mouse setting of "Auto" was the culprit. Once I
selected a specific protocol, IM2/PS2/whatever, it worked fine.

Jim

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Old 02-19-2008, 02:52 PM
Scott Eberl
 
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On 2004-08-19, Jim <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:02:04 +0000, Scott Eberl wrote:
>
>> OK this is really starting to piss me off, A LOT. I had a cheapo 2
>> computer kvm switch with built in cables and it worked great switching
>> between my windows 2000 box and my slackware box. For my birthday a
>> buddy bought me a 4 computer kvm switch so I could switch between my
>> windows 2000, and 2 linux boxes. Well the fucked up thing is it doesnt
>> work correctly. If i switch over to the linux box and its in a terminal
>> with no X running I can type just fine and do anything but if I start X
>> I lose the keyboard and mouse. Nothing has changed from when the 2
>> computer kvm was working just fine with this setup. Is there some reason
>> this kvm would refuse to allow the keyboard/mouse to work through it?
>> Can I change something? Im about to switch back to the 2 port junker but
>> it seems a little sad to have to go from a nicer switch to a cheaper one
>> because it works. Im stumped since it does seem to allow the keyboard to
>> work only shits when I start X which makes me think its somehow a driver
>> issue with X or an incompatabity which seems rare since the settings
>> worked just fine with the previous 2 port kvm.

>
> I had a similar problem with a Belkin Omni switch a few years ago. What
> I found was in X the mouse setting of "Auto" was the culprit. Once I
> selected a specific protocol, IM2/PS2/whatever, it worked fine.
>


No joy that was one of the first things I tried. Took me a second to
change my thinking since xorg.conf is a tiny bit different then
XF86Config. Changed it to IMPS/2 and same deal no mouse or keyboard when
starting X
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:52 PM
Scott Eberl
 
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On 2004-08-19, Grant <grant_nospam@dodo.com.au> wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:40:23 GMT, Stanislaw Flatto
><compaid@shoalhaven.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Scott Eberl wrote:
>>

> [snip]
>> >
>> >Please help this is driving me up the fucking wall and I need to be able
>> >to switch back and fourth between win2k and X on the linux box
>> >
>> >

>> A motto I composed few days ago(tm) " If it ain't broke, upgrade!".
>> Join the club ;-) it is VERY free membership.
>>

> Is using a terminal an option?
>
> o PuTTY ssh terminals on windows to the linux box.
>
> o Lightweight X, say IceWM, over a VNC link.
>
>

Using a terminal is an option but not desired. I already use ssh to get
into the box and kill the x session which happily sits there with the
screensaver running.
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:52 PM
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In alt.os.linux.slackware, Grant dared to utter,
> Is using a terminal an option?
> o PuTTY ssh terminals on windows to the linux box.
> o Lightweight X, say IceWM, over a VNC link.


That defeats the entire point of having a KVM switch, don'tcha think?

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Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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+Alan Hicks+
 
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In alt.os.linux.slackware, Scott Eberl dared to utter,
> Please help this is driving me up the fucking wall and I need to be able
> to switch back and fourth between win2k and X on the linux box


Wish I could offer you a little bit of help here, but the only advice I
can give you is what KVM's I've used that seem to work.

http://www.startech.com/ststore/item...ar=topbark.htm

That one is as cheap as they come, but it works well. StarTech's
shipping department sucks though, so if you buy from them it can take
and awful long time before it gets delivered.

KVM switches that have external power (don't draw their power from the
PS/2 and VGA ports on the computers) tend to work well as a rule.

I have yet though, to find a KVM switch that worked with the 2.6
kernel. Everytime I change computers on it, then go back to linux, the
mouse is screwed. Acts like the wrong protocol was set for it. This
happens in both X and gpm. Why it works with the 2.4 kernel on the same
machines is a mystery that I haven't yet solved.

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Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:52 PM
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Scott Eberl wrote:

> OK this is really starting to piss me off, A LOT. I had a cheapo 2
> computer kvm switch with built in cables and it worked great switching
> between my windows 2000 box and my slackware box. For my birthday a
> buddy bought me a 4 computer kvm switch so I could switch between my
> windows 2000, and 2 linux boxes. Well the fucked up thing is it doesnt
> work correctly. If i switch over to the linux box and its in a terminal
> with no X running I can type just fine and do anything but if I start X
> I lose the keyboard and mouse. Nothing has changed from when the 2
> computer kvm was working just fine with this setup. Is there some reason
> this kvm would refuse to allow the keyboard/mouse to work through it?
> Can I change something? Im about to switch back to the 2 port junker but
> it seems a little sad to have to go from a nicer switch to a cheaper one
> because it works. Im stumped since it does seem to allow the keyboard to
> work only shits when I start X which makes me think its somehow a driver
> issue with X or an incompatabity which seems rare since the settings
> worked just fine with the previous 2 port kvm.
>
> Please help this is driving me up the fucking wall and I need to be able
> to switch back and fourth between win2k and X on the linux box


I've got same problem. It happens with widopes and GNU/Linux equally
and thus I'm stumped.

However I found in KDE the keyboard is not fully lost - pressing
ALT F1 brings up the pop up menu.
From there I select start new session (3rd from bottom of menu)
and when that starts a second x session - miracle of miracles,
the mouse is operational again and so is keyboard. Then I log
out of the new seession and go back to my original session and hey
presto the mouse and keyboard works there too.


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Old 02-19-2008, 02:53 PM
Henrik Carlqvist
 
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Scott Eberl <scott@airea420.com> wrote:

> I had a cheapo 2 computer kvm switch with built in cables and it worked
> great switching between my windows 2000 box and my slackware box. For my
> birthday a buddy bought me a 4 computer kvm switch so I could switch
> between my windows 2000, and 2 linux boxes. Well the fucked up thing is
> it doesnt work correctly.


At work I have a user which had one Linux box and one XP box with a 2
computer kvm switch. When he also needed an NT box we bought him a 4
computer kvm switch. This new switch worked fine with the XP box and the
Linux box, however, there were troubles with the NT box. The NT box
however worked fine with the 2 port kvm switch.

The ugly solution was the following:

The 4-port KVM is connected to the Linux-box and the XP-box and the 2-port
KVM, the fourth port isn't used. The 2-port KVM sits between the 4-port
KVM and the NT-box, the second port on that KVM isn't used. This way all
computers work fine and he only has to switch computers with the 4-port
KVM.

regards Henrik
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