jab3 wrote:

> My*install*of*9.1*was*from*the*Personal*ISO*from*t he
> website (which booted fine), then an FTP install of everything else I
> wanted.**I'm*just*curious.**I*just*can't*figure*th is*out*-*I*know*how*YaST
> works, and I believe that you know how systems work.**It's*just*strange.
>

Googled around a bit. Looks like Suse 9.1 is famous for destroying distros
on other partitions)

Niki Kovacs
--
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one frequently goes ranting on and on at
ball-breaking length. (Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus,
first draft)

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In alt.os.linux.slackware, Edafe Knabe dared to utter,
> I like Slackware. But the truth is that, had it not been for SuSE 7.3-9.0,
> today I would be using Mac OS X exclusively...

You'd be surprised at just how many Slackers here use OSX. Let's see,
me, +Cibao+, Joost, several others have PPC hardware, some runnign
Slackintosh (Keith Keller comes to mind). It's good stuff plain and
simple, but I think everyone here agress that when it comes to serious
reliability and stability on servers it's Slackware.

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+Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.network> wrote:
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> In alt.os.linux.slackware, Edafe Knabe dared to utter,
>> I like Slackware. But the truth is that, had it not been for SuSE 7.3-9.0,
>> today I would be using Mac OS X exclusively...
>
> You'd be surprised at just how many Slackers here use OSX. Let's see,
> me, +Cibao+, Joost, several others have PPC hardware, some runnign
> Slackintosh (Keith Keller comes to mind). It's good stuff plain and
> simple, but I think everyone here agress that when it comes to serious
> reliability and stability on servers it's Slackware.
>
> - --
> It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
> Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
> Ecclesiastes 7:5
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On 2004-09-17, +Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.netWORK> wrote:
>
> In alt.os.linux.slackware, Edafe Knabe dared to utter,
>> I like Slackware. But the truth is that, had it not been for SuSE 7.3-9.0,
>> today I would be using Mac OS X exclusively...
>
> You'd be surprised at just how many Slackers here use OSX. Let's see,
> me, +Cibao+, Joost, several others have PPC hardware, some runnign
> Slackintosh (Keith Keller comes to mind).

That disk got hosed. I'm now back to OS X. IIRC Joost is running
Gentoo on his iBook, maybe even in a dual-boot configuration.

> It's good stuff plain and
> simple, but I think everyone here agress that when it comes to serious
> reliability and stability on servers it's Slackware.

Well, not on PPC servers. :-\ I really love the Apple hardware, but
some things really irk me about OS X as a server OS. Some I believe
have been fixed (they dumped NetInfo with 10.3, for example), but others
(how easy is it to set default boot to no Quartz?) haven't.

- --keith

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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:43:11 -0400, jab3 <manual@helpdesk.org> wrote:

>Kiki Novak finally wrote on Wednesday 15 September 2004 06:56 pm:
>
>> After a brief hesitation, I chose "New installation", figuring that sooner
>> or later I would be greeted by some high-color version of fdisk or cfdisk.
>> Red Hat calls that thing disk druid, IIRC. Because there are two other
>> Linux installations on my Pentium III, that is 1) Slackware 10.0, and 2)
>> Slackware 10.0 (experimental). Two almost identical Slackware setups, the
>> one to do work on, the other to fiddle around and make a mess. The two are
>> on /dev/hda, partitioned in several slices for /boot, /usr, /var, /tmp,
>> and /dev/hdb is for my entire /home on the working Slack.
>>
>> I hit "Enter" and waited for Disk Druid or whatever to arrive, but all I
>> got was:
>>
>> "ERASING /DEV/HDB"
>>
>> Fortunately I do some martial arts, so 1) I have rather fast reflexes, and
>> 2) I only moderately howled with pain as I banged my head on my desk while
>> taking the plunge to rip the power cord from the wall.
>>
>> After a brief and very heavy suspense, I rebooted on my Slack, and looks
>> like I was fast enough. /dev/hdb1 is still there. Phew.
>>
>> So much for SuSE 9.1. Guess I'll rather stick with Slack for the next few
>> years. At leastD
>>
>> Niki Kovacs
>
>You know, I really like Slack. Been using it for a few months now. It's
>becoming my favorite distro because of its leanness and elegance. It
>teaches a lot about how Unix, I mean Linux, works (though it seems to be
>some sort of merging of V7 and BSD). But I must say, having installed SuSE
>8.1, 8.2 and SUSE 9.0 and 9.1 - your experience is the exact opposite of
>mine. I honestly can't imagine anything but that YaST did exactly what you
>told it to do, whether you were aware of it or not. Granted, when I
>install software - especially an operating system - I make no assumptions
>about how it installs and read every word on every page to make sure I know
>what it's going to do and what my options are. I know that you are no
>newbie, you've got two versions of Slackware installed; I'm sure you know
>much more than I do. But do you think that maybe it's your amount of
>knowledge that may have messed you up? I know sometimes when we think
>we really know something about, say, an OS, we just sort of 'do it' without
>thinking about it, just assuming we know what it means when in fact you
>missed a line/option or two that would have lead us in an entirely
>different direction. I personally don't find YaST cryptic. If you could
>tell me exactly where you obtained your DVD, I would love to get one and
>try it myself. My install of 9.1 was from the Personal ISO from the
>website (which booted fine), then an FTP install of everything else I
>wanted. I'm just curious. I just can't figure this out - I know how YaST
>works, and I believe that you know how systems work. It's just strange.
>
>
>-jab3
to put it simpler than you did, knovac did NOT READ the full page
that YAST put in front of his face AFTER he chose FRENCH and just hit
OK like a windows user.

that is no offense to him , cause I think we all have done it at one
time or another, I know I HAVE.

I love Slack, Debian and Suse. I really loved caldera when it first
came out too, sorry to see it die like it did.

right now I have windows, Suse, Debian and Gentoo in my main drive and
play with all 4.

Kiki Novak finally wrote on Friday 17 September 2004 05:08 pm:

> jab3 wrote:
>
>> My*install*of*9.1*was*from*the*Personal*ISO*from*t he
>> website (which booted fine), then an FTP install of everything else I
>> wanted.**I'm*just*curious.**I*just*can't*figure*th is*out*-*I*know*how
>> YaST works, and I believe that you know how systems work.**It's*just
>> strange.
>>
>
> Googled around a bit. Looks like Suse 9.1 is famous for destroying distros
> on other partitions)
>
> Niki Kovacs

Well, there is of course he problem with Windows not booting after an
install (which didn't affect me) because of a problem when Linux and the
BIOS see different geometries or the Windows partition is over 8gb. But
this is not a SUSE specific problem; it happens on other distros with 2.6
kernel. But this shouldn't apply to you.

My searching Google returned problems with Windows like I said, but there
weren't articles a-plenty about SUSE's "famous...destroying distros on
other partitions." Perhaps you're the better Google user. I found some
problems, but most seem to be with people accepting what YaST proposes,
just 'clicking away.' Like I said, I only install 'custom' - especially an
operating system. I would never let a partition program decide for itself
how to partition my disks. I'm assuming you didn't either.

You say after you selected New Installation, you 'hit Enter' and then it
immediately said "ERASING /DEV/HDB"? There were no intervening steps? No
intervening questions? No other options? What probably happened is that
when YaST brought up the main configuration screen after you selected New
Installation - where you select language, keyboard, partition scheme,
package scheme, time zone, etc - you just hit Enter, thereby accepting the
defaults. I could understand that not working the way you wanted it.


-jab3

On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 22:49:01 -0400, Fao, Sean wrote:

> Dude, do you know something I don't know? I thought this post was a
> complient to Slackware. Maybe I'm missing something.

The fact that' it's an obvious troll.
Killfile and ignore - nothing to see here.

On Friday 17 September 2004 02:35 pm, +Alan Hicks+ did deign to grace us
with the following:

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> In alt.os.linux.slackware, Edafe Knabe dared to utter,
>> I like Slackware. But the truth is that, had it not been for SuSE
>> 7.3-9.0, today I would be using Mac OS X exclusively...
>
> You'd be surprised at just how many Slackers here use OSX. Let's see,
> me, +Cibao+, Joost, several others have PPC hardware, some runnign
> Slackintosh (Keith Keller comes to mind). It's good stuff plain and
> simple, but I think everyone here agress that when it comes to serious
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> reliability and stability on servers it's Slackware.
^^^^^^^^^

In news:alt.os.linux.slackware? Ya think?
;-)

On Friday 17 Sep 2004 22:08 Kiki Novak, wrote:

> Googled around a bit. Looks like Suse 9.1 is famous for destroying
> distros on other partitions)

And how many of those are usenet posts crossposted to cola and windows
groups? You should resend your OP to alt.os.linux.suse so they can have
a laugh as well!
You didn't read the page Yast gave you after language selection and
clicked OK! You deserve what happened to you.
--
del 8-)

"jab3" typed:
> Kiki Novak finally wrote on Friday 17 September 2004 05:08 pm:
>>
>> Googled around a bit. Looks like Suse 9.1 is famous for destroying distros
>> on other partitions)
>
> Well, there is of course he problem with Windows not booting after an
> install (which didn't affect me) because of a problem when Linux and the
> BIOS see different geometries or the Windows partition is over 8gb. But
> this is not a SUSE specific problem; it happens on other distros with 2.6
> kernel. But this shouldn't apply to you.
>
> My searching Google returned problems with Windows like I said, but there
> weren't articles a-plenty about SUSE's "famous...destroying distros on
> other partitions." Perhaps you're the better Google user. I found some

As far as I have read, the problem is due to bugs in QtParted and the
disk geometry code of the 2.6 kernel. Again, as far as I have read,
the problem occurs only when one resizes an existing NTFS partition using
recent version(s) of QtParted, and installs a Linux distribution running
on a 2.6 kernel on the new partition.

--
Ayaz Ahmed Khan, <http://fast-ce.org/linux>
"Q: What does FAQ stand for?
A: We are Frequently Asked this Question, and thus far have no idea."