+Alan Hicks+ wrote:

> You'd be surprised at just how many Slackers here use OSX. Let's see,
> me, +Cibao+, Joost, several others have PPC hardware, some runnign
> Slackintosh (Keith Keller comes to mind).

Count me inD

Pentium III 500 MHz running Slack 10.0.

Apple ibook G3 600 MHz running OS X 10.2.8


--
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one frequently goes ranting on and on at
ball-breaking length. (Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus,
first draft)

res@verizon.net wrote:

> to put it simpler than you did,**knovac*did*NOT*READ**the*full*page
> that YAST put in front of his face AFTER he chose FRENCH and just hit
> OK**like*a*windows*user.
>
> that is no offense to him , cause I think we all have done it at one
> time or another, I know I HAVE.

Here we go again, folks. Let's put some things straight.

I have (better: had, because I threw the thing away) a Suse 9.1 Novell
edition DVD that came with the french magazine "Linux CD #9". I booted the
thing (on 3 floppies, as the DVD wouldn't boot), chose FRENCH, and all
there was to read was:

1) New installation

2) Update existing installation

3) Repair existing installation

4) Boot existing installation

And that was all. Not a word more. Since I didn't want to update/repair/boot
an existing install, I chose "New install" because that seemed to
approximate the most what I wanted to do. So I went (1), and was
immediately greeted by "ERASING /DEV/HDB1". If you still think I'm not anal
enough about the install process, I just suggest you get that DVD and try
it out for yourself. Hint: backup your /home directory first;o)

Niki Kovacs
--
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one frequently goes ranting on and on at
ball-breaking length. (Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus,
first draft)

del wrote:

> And how many of those are usenet posts crossposted to cola and windows
> groups? You should resend your OP to alt.os.linux.suse so they can have
> a laugh as well!
> You didn't read the page Yast gave you after language selection and
> clicked OK! You deserve what happened to you.

Sounds like another cordially-as-always-identity. One more to ploink.

NK

--
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one frequently goes ranting on and on at
ball-breaking length. (Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus,
first draft)

Ayaz Ahmed Khan <resilient@myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:<2r29nnF15bhn0U2@uni-berlin.de>...
> As far as I have read, the problem is due to bugs in QtParted and the
> disk geometry code of the 2.6 kernel. Again, as far as I have read,
> the problem occurs only when one resizes an existing NTFS partition using
> recent version(s) of QtParted, and installs a Linux distribution running
> on a 2.6 kernel on the new partition.

Some minor corrections.

The problem isn't QTParted itself but Parted runing on 2.6 kernels.
Most installers and partitioners use Parted hence quite many is
affected (Fedora, Mandrake, SUSE, Debian Sarge, Knoppix, Conectiva,
etc). QTParted is only one of the many affected tools due to its usage
of Parted.

The problem occurs NOT only when one resizes an existing NTFS
partition but anytime when Parted is used. Adding, deleting or even
just listing partitions may corrupt the CHS values assigned for the
Windows partition in the partition table.

The problem occures NOT only when user has NTFS but with FAT32 too.
The problem is not with the filesystem but with the partition table.
The partition table is outside of the filesystem so the filesystem is
irrelevant. Parted corrupts only the partiton table, not the
filesystem. Actually Parted can't handle NTFS at all, that's done by a
separate tool, ntfsresize, and that works fine whatever kernel one
uses. So using ntfsresize + fdisk on Slack is safe.

The good news is, Parted was recently enhanced to work on the broken
2.6 kernels too.

On Saturday 18 September 2004 09:04 am, Kiki Novak did deign to grace us
with the following:
....
> And that was all. Not a word more. Since I didn't want to
> update/repair/boot an existing install, I chose "New install" because that
> seemed to approximate the most what I wanted to do. So I went (1), and was
> immediately greeted by "ERASING /DEV/HDB1". If you still think I'm not
> anal enough about the install process, I just suggest you get that DVD and
> try it out for yourself. Hint: backup your /home directory first;o)
>
Can you put the contents of the DVD and the files for the boot disks
somewhere on the web? I don't have a DVD writer, but I could try it
via NFS or maybe CDs - I have a "testing" computer that's OK to break. :-)

Cheers!
Rich

Kiki Novak <mickey@mouse.com> wrote:

> Here we go again, folks. Let's put some things straight.
>
> I have (better: had, because I threw the thing away) a Suse 9.1
> Novell edition DVD that came with the french magazine "Linux CD
> #9". I booted the thing (on 3 floppies, as the DVD wouldn't
> boot), chose FRENCH, and all there was to read was:

How is it that somebody like you, who knows next to nothing about
linux, is writing for a magazine about linux?

cordially, as always,

rm

Rich Grise wrote:

> Can you put the contents of the DVD and the files for the boot disks
> somewhere on the web? I don't have a DVD writer, but I could try it
> via NFS or maybe CDs - I have a "testing" computer that's OK to break. :-)

Sorry I only have a dialup connection(

But everything is already available here: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/

Choose the "9.1" directory.

Niki Kovacs
--
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one frequently goes ranting on and on at
ball-breaking length. (Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus,
first draft)

On Saturday 18 Sep 2004 23:34 Rich Grise, wrote:

> Can you put the contents of the DVD and the files for the boot disks
> somewhere on the web? I don't have a DVD writer, but I could try it
> via NFS or maybe CDs - I have a "testing" computer that's OK to break.
> :-)
>
You can ftp install from a mirror or download to hd and install from
there, ftp/http/nfs/hd. To get started all you need is the boot.iso,
~20M, and a bootable CD drive.
<URL:ftp://ftp.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/current/boot/boot.iso>
Or whatever mirror is nearest you.
All links and info on their website.
<URL:http://www.suse.de/en/private/download/suse_linux/index.html>.
The ftp version is "almost" the Pro version that you would get if you
bought the box set. Or you could just get the personal.iso and burn it
or mount it to install, but if you want it to be more like slack you'll
have to download the extra parts as and when needed.
Oh! Apologies to aolsw for dragging it out and alt.os.linux.suse is that
way -->.
--
del 8-)

"Sz. Csetey" typed:
> Ayaz Ahmed Khan wrote:
>> As far as I have read, the problem is due to bugs in QtParted and the
>> disk geometry code of the 2.6 kernel. Again, as far as I have read,
>> the problem occurs only when one resizes an existing NTFS partition using
>> recent version(s) of QtParted, and installs a Linux distribution running
>> on a 2.6 kernel on the new partition.
>
> Some minor corrections.
>
> The problem isn't QTParted itself but Parted runing on 2.6 kernels.
> Most installers and partitioners use Parted hence quite many is
> affected (Fedora, Mandrake, SUSE, Debian Sarge, Knoppix, Conectiva,
> etc). QTParted is only one of the many affected tools due to its usage
> of Parted.
>
> The problem occurs NOT only when one resizes an existing NTFS
> partition but anytime when Parted is used. Adding, deleting or even
> just listing partitions may corrupt the CHS values assigned for the
> Windows partition in the partition table.
>
> The problem occures NOT only when user has NTFS but with FAT32 too.
> The problem is not with the filesystem but with the partition table.
> The partition table is outside of the filesystem so the filesystem is
> irrelevant. Parted corrupts only the partiton table, not the
> filesystem. Actually Parted can't handle NTFS at all, that's done by a
> separate tool, ntfsresize, and that works fine whatever kernel one
> uses. So using ntfsresize + fdisk on Slack is safe.
>
> The good news is, Parted was recently enhanced to work on the broken
> 2.6 kernels too.

Thanks for the info. In addition to what I said, I have also read that
if LBA is enabled from within the BIOS, the problem in question does
not occur.

--
Ayaz Ahmed Khan, <http://fast-ce.org/linux>
"If God wanted us to be brave, why did he give us legs."
-- unknown