Hi,

Do you know that feeling? Sometimes you wonder why you stick with Slack...
when there are all these nice, bells-and-whistles, hi-color-boxed distros
around. Not that Slack can't have all the colors and bells and whistles,
but... you know. Sometimes I'm a bit tired, when having to install it to
someone, to manually edit ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc, and even vim is
plain vi out of the box and I have to edit some basic .vimrc otherwise I'll
go crazy in vi-compatible mode.

So yesterday I got me a brandnew Suse 9.1 DVD for only 7,50 EUR. OK, the DVD
didn't want to boot, but what the heck, I only spent about the best part of
a sunny afternoon finding three working floppies out of a box of about
three hundred. Then I made some bootdisks, booted on the first one, and
hey, nice splashscreen. After having chosen my language (french), I had the
following choices:

1) New installation

2) Upgrade an existing installation

3) Boot an existing installation

4) Repair an existing installation

Hmmm. So what about choice number 5? My choice? Like
install-Suse-on-/dev/hda9 just to figure what it looks like?

After a brief hesitation, I chose "New installation", figuring that sooner
or later I would be greeted by some high-color version of fdisk or cfdisk.
Red Hat calls that thing disk druid, IIRC. Because there are two other
Linux installations on my Pentium III, that is 1) Slackware 10.0, and 2)
Slackware 10.0 (experimental). Two almost identical Slackware setups, the
one to do work on, the other to fiddle around and make a mess. The two are
on /dev/hda, partitioned in several slices for /boot, /usr, /var, /tmp,
and /dev/hdb is for my entire /home on the working Slack.

I hit "Enter" and waited for Disk Druid or whatever to arrive, but all I got
was:

"ERASING /DEV/HDB"

Fortunately I do some martial arts, so 1) I have rather fast reflexes, and
2) I only moderately howled with pain as I banged my head on my desk while
taking the plunge to rip the power cord from the wall.

After a brief and very heavy suspense, I rebooted on my Slack, and looks
like I was fast enough. /dev/hdb1 is still there. Phew.

So much for SuSE 9.1. Guess I'll rather stick with Slack for the next few
years. At leastD

Niki Kovacs
--
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one frequently goes ranting on and on at
ball-breaking length. (Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus,
first draft)

Kiki Novak <mickey@mouse.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do you know that feeling? Sometimes you wonder why you stick with
> Slack... when there are all these nice, bells-and-whistles,
> hi-color-boxed distros around. Not that Slack can't have all the
> colors and bells and whistles, but... you know. Sometimes I'm a
> bit tired, when having to install it to someone, to manually edit
> ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc, and even vim is plain vi out of
> the box and I have to edit some basic .vimrc otherwise I'll go
> crazy in vi-compatible mode.

Nobody cares about this nonsense.

> So yesterday I got me a brandnew Suse 9.1 DVD for only 7,50 EUR.
> OK, the DVD didn't want to boot, but what the heck, I only spent
> about the best part of a sunny afternoon finding three working
> floppies out of a box of about three hundred. Then I made some
> bootdisks, booted on the first one, and hey, nice splashscreen.
> After having chosen my language (french), I had the following
> choices:
>
> 1) New installation
>
> 2) Upgrade an existing installation
>
> 3) Boot an existing installation
>
> 4) Repair an existing installation
>
> Hmmm.

Why are you clearing your throat on the internet?

> So what about choice number 5? My choice? Like
> install-Suse-on-/dev/hda9 just to figure what it looks like?

Make up your mind. Nobody else is going to do it for you.

> After a brief hesitation, I chose "New installation", figuring
> that sooner or later I would be greeted by some high-color
> version of fdisk or cfdisk. Red Hat calls that thing disk druid,
> IIRC. Because there are two other Linux installations on my
> Pentium III, that is 1) Slackware 10.0, and 2) Slackware 10.0
> (experimental). Two almost identical Slackware setups, the one to
> do work on, the other to fiddle around and make a mess. The two
> are on /dev/hda, partitioned in several slices for /boot, /usr,
> /var, /tmp, and /dev/hdb is for my entire /home on the working
> Slack.

Do your work on Windows 2000 and leave us alone.

cordially, as always,

rm

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:56:05 +0200, Kiki Novak wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Do you know that feeling? Sometimes you wonder why you stick with Slack...
> when there are all these nice, bells-and-whistles, hi-color-boxed distros
> around.
>
><snipped alot of stuff>
>
> Niki Kovacs

The greatest thing I can say about slack is this: I started with slack as
my desktop distro back in January. I had used SuSE 8.2 prior (and still
do for my file server). I left a free 10 gig partition for trying a
second distro. I was going to try gentoo. It's still sitting there empty.
I have no desire to try another distro. I'm so content with everything
in slackware that I can no longer be bothered to screw arround with
anything else. There's just no point.

It's not a very technical reason, but I think it says alot none the less.

Steve

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In alt.os.linux.slackware, Kiki Novak dared to utter,
> Do you know that feeling? Sometimes you wonder why you stick with Slack...
> when there are all these nice, bells-and-whistles, hi-color-boxed distros
> around.

Had to talk with my co-worker about this very thing today. He doesn't
know much about linux. To him RedHat and SuSE and Mandrake and
Slackware and Debian are all just the same. One's no better or worse
than the other. One's no more stable than the other. So I spent the
better part of two days trying to figure out how to get pptpd with mppe
to work on Slackware. His feelings are it would have taken about an
hour with RedHat and would be just as stable. Of course us Slackers
who've actually used both and had to maintain them know better.

> "ERASING /DEV/HDB"

Yeah as I recall you have to do some serious wizardry just to tell SuSE
what partition you actually want to install on.

> So much for SuSE 9.1. Guess I'll rather stick with Slack for the next few
> years. At leastD

That's the way it works with me. I could have gotten RedHat to work in
less time sure, but then I'd be stuck with something difficult to
administer, harder to expand, more prone to problems and security
vulnerabilities, and ultimately something that will fall far behind its
peers.

I'd much rather stick with Slackware. Upgrading isn't always easy, but
back-porting fixes is. So is compiling your own code, and rolling your
own updated packages to distribute to remote systems. I'll take slack
on x86 over the others any day.

- --
It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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On Wednesday 15 September 2004 23:56 Kiki Novak, wrote:

<snip>
> (french), I had the following choices:
>
> 1) New installation
>
> 2) Upgrade an existing installation
>
> 3) Boot an existing installation
>
> 4) Repair an existing installation
>
> Hmmm. So what about choice number 5? My choice? Like
> install-Suse-on-/dev/hda9 just to figure what it looks like?
>
> After a brief hesitation, I chose "New installation", figuring that
> sooner or later I would be greeted by some high-color version of fdisk
> or cfdisk.

It does!
<snip>

> I hit "Enter" and waited for Disk Druid or whatever to arrive, but all
> I got was:
>
> "ERASING /DEV/HDB"
Ah! You fell in to the Luser trap of not reading the screens and being
click happy!
After confirming new installation the next screen displays installation
settings. Fifth option is partitioning.
Suse user since 6.2, Suse 9.1 just seemed to be wrong for me and I only
boot it now to fly with flightgear ( for fly read crashing, a lot ).
Started using Slackware 9.0 about a month before Slackware 9.1 was
released. Now a happy Slacker on 10.
--
del 8-)

NeoSadist wrote:
> Kiki Novak <mickey@mouse.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Do you know that feeling? Sometimes you wonder why you stick with
>>Slack... when there are all these nice, bells-and-whistles,
>>hi-color-boxed distros around. Not that Slack can't have all the
>>colors and bells and whistles, but... you know. Sometimes I'm a
>>bit tired, when having to install it to someone, to manually edit
>>~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc, and even vim is plain vi out of
>>the box and I have to edit some basic .vimrc otherwise I'll go
>>crazy in vi-compatible mode.
>
>
> Nobody cares about this nonsense.
>
>
>>So yesterday I got me a brandnew Suse 9.1 DVD for only 7,50 EUR.
>>OK, the DVD didn't want to boot, but what the heck, I only spent
>>about the best part of a sunny afternoon finding three working
>>floppies out of a box of about three hundred. Then I made some
>>bootdisks, booted on the first one, and hey, nice splashscreen.
>>After having chosen my language (french), I had the following
>>choices:
>>
>>1) New installation
>>
>>2) Upgrade an existing installation
>>
>>3) Boot an existing installation
>>
>>4) Repair an existing installation
>>
>>Hmmm.
>
>
> Why are you clearing your throat on the internet?
>
>
>>So what about choice number 5? My choice? Like
>>install-Suse-on-/dev/hda9 just to figure what it looks like?
>
>
> Make up your mind. Nobody else is going to do it for you.
>
>
>>After a brief hesitation, I chose "New installation", figuring
>>that sooner or later I would be greeted by some high-color
>>version of fdisk or cfdisk. Red Hat calls that thing disk druid,
>>IIRC. Because there are two other Linux installations on my
>>Pentium III, that is 1) Slackware 10.0, and 2) Slackware 10.0
>>(experimental). Two almost identical Slackware setups, the one to
>>do work on, the other to fiddle around and make a mess. The two
>>are on /dev/hda, partitioned in several slices for /boot, /usr,
>>/var, /tmp, and /dev/hdb is for my entire /home on the working
>>Slack.
>
>
> Do your work on Windows 2000 and leave us alone.
>
> cordially, as always,

Dude, do you know something I don't know? I thought this post was a
complient to Slackware. Maybe I'm missing something.

--
Sean

+Alan Hicks+ wrote:
>> "ERASING /DEV/HDB"
>
> Yeah as I recall you have to do some serious wizardry just to tell SuSE
> what partition you actually want to install on.

i find that difficult to believe. granted, i haven't used SuSE in a while,
but they always used to have the option to partition your disk and choose
the partitions to install on.

--
Joost Kremers joostkremers@yahoo.com
Selbst in die Unterwelt dringt durch Spalten Licht
EN:SiS(9)

Joost Kremers wrote:

> i find that difficult to believe. granted, i haven't used SuSE in a while,
> but they always used to have the option to partition your disk and choose
> the partitions to install on.

Seeing is believingD (SuSe 9.1 Novell edition)
--
Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one frequently goes ranting on and on at
ball-breaking length. (Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus,
first draft)

Kiki Novak <mickey@mouse.com> wrote in message news:<4148c66e$0$17714$626a14ce@news.free.fr>...
> Hi,
>
> Do you know that feeling? Sometimes you wonder why you stick with Slack...

Love is a feeling that can't be explained
;-)

Mik.

Kiki Novak <mickey@mouse.com> wrote in message news:<4148c66e$0$17714$626a14ce@news.free.fr>...
> Hi,
>
> Do you know that feeling? Sometimes you wonder why you stick with Slack...
....
> So yesterday I got me a brandnew Suse 9.1 DVD for only 7,50 EUR. OK, the DVD
> After a brief and very heavy suspense, I rebooted on my Slack, and looks
> like I was fast enough. /dev/hdb1 is still there. Phew.
>
> So much for SuSE 9.1. Guess I'll rather stick with Slack for the next few
> years. At leastD

http://slackart.linuxpackages.net/in...staslack.j pg

:-)
Mik.