On Saturday 18 September 2004 02:25 pm, Graham Watson did deign to grace us
with the following:

>
> "Mark Hill" <mrhill@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2004-09-18T16-32-12@heaney.example.org...
>> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:36:11 +0100,
>> Graham Watson <noone@nosuchdomain.co.zz> wrote:
>> > "Rich Grise" <null@example.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> Just out of curiosity, would you copy/paste your output of df here?
>> >> Maybe free and fdisk while you're at it. And maybe /proc/cpuinfo.
>> >> :-)
>>
>> > Just as soon as I find out how!
>>
>> For starters, here's how to get the output of those commands at a
>> command prompt:
>> $ df -h
>> $ free
>> $ /sbin/fdisk -l
>> $ cat /proc/cpuinfo
>>
>> Copying and pasting may be different to how you're used to, depending on
>> the terminal and window manager you're using. Unless another way is
>> obvious, try selecting the text with the left mouse button and pasting
>> with the right or middle button.
>>
>> For a quick introduction to the command line, typing 'man 1 intro' will
>> give you a quick guide.
>>
>> --
>> Mark Hill
>> Email (Just for Fun):
>> echo zbp.yvnzt.yyvuez | rot13 | rev | sed s@\\.@\\@@
>
> I'm smoking twice as much, my wife's leaving me and the dog is starving to
> death but hey - I'm getting somewhere! As everyone predicted it's going to
> be a console only box. I tried loading KDE and it did load and run (bless
> it) but it was like trying to run a Rolls Royce with a lawnmower engine.
> From clicking the toolbar button to it actually bringing up the menu took
> about 20 mins.

Well, this kind of obviates the need to examine the system much more :-)

Congratulations, big time! If you've still got it up, it might be
interesting to bring up a console with "top" or something on it while
you do something like that. 20 minutes! :-)

> But it's fascinating! The joys of getting it to participate
> on the network and Samba which I can only get half working. (I can access
> the windows machines with smbclient but can't access anything on the
> Slackware machine. I can see it in the Workgroup but when I try to access
> it I get a 'Semaphore' timeout error.) Will plug away with it though.
>
> Thanks for all the encouragement and pointers and I hope you don't mind if
> I ask some daft questions from time to time.
>
> Here's the requested logs (btw I was impressed that it detected all of my
> HD without any help or patches)
>
> graham@gateway:~$ df -h
>
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda2 19G 2.7G 15G 16% /
> /dev/hda4 54G 148K 51G 1% /usr/local
> /dev/hda1 42M 3.1M 36M 8% /boot
>
>
>
> graham@gateway:~$ free
>
> total used free shared buffers cached
> Mem: 13084 12772 312 0 400 4912
> -/+ buffers/cache: 7460 5624
> Swap: 999928 840 999088
>
>
> graham@gateway:~$ /sbin/fdisk -l
>
> Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
> 32 heads, 63 sectors/track, 77530 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 2016 * 512 = 1032192 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hda1 * 1 48 48352+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda2 49 19424 19531008 83 Linux
> /dev/hda3 19425 20416 999936 82 Linux swap
> /dev/hda4 20417 77530 57570912 83 Linux
>
>
>
> graham@gateway:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
>
> processor : 0
> vendor_id : GenuineIntel
> cpu family : 4
> model : 3
> model name : 486 DX/2
> stepping : 6
> fdiv_bug : no
> hlt_bug : no
> f00f_bug : no
> coma_bug : no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level : 1
> wp : yes
> flags : fpu vme pse
> bogomips : 33.17
>
>
>
>
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On Saturday 18 September 2004 02:25 pm, Graham Watson wrote:
> "Mark Hill" <mrhill@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:36:11 +0100,
>> Graham Watson <noone@nosuchdomain.co.zz> wrote:
>> > "Rich Grise" <null@example.net> wrote:
>> >> Just out of curiosity, would you copy/paste your output of df here?
>> >> Maybe free and fdisk while you're at it. And maybe /proc/cpuinfo.
>> >> :-)
> ...I tried loading KDE and it did load and run (bless
> it) but it was like trying to run a Rolls Royce with a lawnmower engine.
> From clicking the toolbar button to it actually bringing up the menu took
> about 20 mins.
> ...
> graham@gateway:~$ df -h
> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda2 19G 2.7G 15G 16% /
> /dev/hda4 54G 148K 51G 1% /usr/local
> /dev/hda1 42M 3.1M 36M 8% /boot
> graham@gateway:~$ free
> total used free shared buffers cached
> Mem: 13084 12772 312 0 400 4912
> -/+ buffers/cache: 7460 5624
> Swap: 999928 840 999088
> graham@gateway:~$ /sbin/fdisk -l
> Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes
> 32 heads, 63 sectors/track, 77530 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 2016 * 512 = 1032192 bytes
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hda1 * 1 48 48352+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hda2 49 19424 19531008 83 Linux
> /dev/hda3 19425 20416 999936 82 Linux swap
> /dev/hda4 20417 77530 57570912 83 Linux
> graham@gateway:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor : 0
> vendor_id : GenuineIntel
> cpu family : 4
> model : 3
> model name : 486 DX/2
> stepping : 6
> fdiv_bug : no
> hlt_bug : no
> f00f_bug : no
> coma_bug : no
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level : 1
> wp : yes
> flags : fpu vme pse
> bogomips : 33.17

I think this should be nominated for some kind of record. Is there a
record for the most stuff running on the least hardware?

Cheers!
Rich

On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:06:51 GMT,
Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:
>
> Well, this kind of obviates the need to examine the system much more :-)
[snip]

Dear Rich,

Please trim! Thank you.

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Graham Watson wrote:

> I'm smoking twice as much, my wife's leaving me and the dog is starving to
> death

Graham

Try and keep up. The Grateful Dead thread is over and anyway I'm
quite sure this is a Country and Western song.

Regards

Chu

"ChuMaiFat" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:414d5d95$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Graham Watson wrote:
>
> > I'm smoking twice as much, my wife's leaving me and the dog is starving
to
> > death
>
> Graham
>
> Try and keep up. The Grateful Dead thread is over and anyway I'm
> quite sure this is a Country and Western song.
>
> Regards
>
> Chu

Sorry, I didn't know - just joined

I'm smoking twice as much, my wife's leaving me and the dog is starving to
death
But it's ok my dear I'll be down in a tick, I've just got to do one more
test
It's sendmail you see, it's driving me nuts, I just can't compile a file
Just put the food on the table - I'll be down there in a while
Graham (Billy-Joe) Watson




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On Saturday 18 September 2004 03:16 pm, Mark Hill did deign to grace us with
the following:

> On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 22:06:51 GMT,
> Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:
>>
>> Well, this kind of obviates the need to examine the system much more :-)
> [snip]
>
> Dear Rich,
>
> Please trim! Thank you.
>
I normally do, thanks - but I thought those stats were worth saving.
KDE on a 486-66 with 16 MB RAM - come on! :-)

32 Bogomips! Ya gotta love it. :-)

Cheers!
Rich

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> I'm smoking twice as much, my wife's leaving me and the dog is starving to death
> But it's ok my dear I'll be down in a tick, I've just got to do one more test
> It's sendmail you see, it's driving me nuts, I just can't compile a file
> Just put the food on the table - I'll be down there in a while
> Graham (Billy-Joe) Watson
<modquote>

Ye might wish ta dress it up a lil more an' have yese'f a real beauty.
Arrr!

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It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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+Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.network> wrote:
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> In alt.os.linux.slackware, Graham Watson dared to utter,
>
> <modquote>
>> I'm smoking twice as much, my wife's leaving me and the dog is starving to death
>> But it's ok my dear I'll be down in a tick, I've just got to do one more test
>> It's sendmail you see, it's driving me nuts, I just can't compile a file
>> Just put the food on the table - I'll be down there in a while
>> Graham (Billy-Joe) Watson
> <modquote>
>
> Ye might wish ta dress it up a lil more an' have yese'f a real beauty.
> Arrr!
>
> - --
> It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
> Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
> Ecclesiastes 7:5
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William Hunt <wjh@huntbros.net> wrote:

>
> 486/66 is fine for CLI and text based applications, but if
> there is -any- way to increase ram to 24 or 32MB, you will
> find significant improvement. (below 24MB, the os will rely
> upon swap to get anything done. this can be painful).

Having run Slack 8 on a 486/66 with 32 megs of ram,I can strongly second
that advice. Scour the junk shops for old boards with memory. Fluxbox will
be usable with that much memory, and if you can find 64 megs, it'll even
seem fast, and your wife will come back to you.

Some useful text apps:

mc - file manager
screen - multiple terminals on one sign-in
links - web browser
pine - email
slrn - usenet
mcedit or joe - basic text editors
checkinstall - allows self compiled packages to be integrated into
Skackware's package management system.

pinfo - (http://pinfo.sourceforge.net/) An excellent manual and info page
reader, with many usefull features.
twin - (http://linuz.sns.it/~max/twin/) A text mode windowing system.

You'll have to compile these last two yourself, which you will find very
easy to do.


> okay now, have fun !


--
Dutchy

FiveThreeEightZeroSevenSevenThree@telus.net (but use digits)

Just want to thank everyone for their help and encouragment.

Put a 4Gb drive into the 486-66 because as a console only system a 80Gb
was just wasted. Reinstalled (a couple of times) to get the packages I
needed for a console only system with Sendmail etc and it's working away
fine.

So then put the 80Gb into a 933-P3 and installed the full package on that
and I am so impressed!! This is a whole new world - everything runs so
sweetly. Looks like Windows is only going to be used for games from now on!

So for any newbies out there all I can say is perservere - it's worth it.
Plug away - try different approaches and Google and two other sites I
found very helpful are.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/
http://www.linuxforum.com/

Thanks all once again.

(sent via Pan!!)