Dominik L.. Borkowski <dom@vbi.vt.edu> wrote:
> If you missed the point, I was referring to cups clients. By definition,
> they are not clients if they were not intended to print.

You are missing my point. Sometimes the ONLY client is LOCALHOST, ie
automated processes on the machine and people logged into the machine. In
such cases, firewalling the network port is not only inconsequential to
the intended activities of the "server", but also a good idea. For
example, in my lab, everyone maintains their own print server because the
central print server got fried in a power outage a couple years ago and
the post-doc in charge of it never rebuilt it. None of the other students
wish to take over the role of sys admin due to the transient nature of
their time in the labs (most are masters students only there for a year)
or because they don't want to tread on the toes of this post-doc, so
pretty much everyone has access restricted to localhost and/or firewalls.

> Nowhere I have even attempted to force the web browser solution. Please
> quote me if I have. It's also easy to state an observation that somebody is
> technically competent *after* all of the OP's postings. Take a note of when
> I asked him about the circumstances plus suggested a web browser, and OP's
> postings which go in greater technical depth. If you can read minds better
> than anybody here, I'll take my hat off.
>

You kept asking for the situation, which he finally provided. I can only
hope that his providing details does not put his job in jeopardy should
his boss(es) read the post and find his disclaimers insufficient. I find
such asking after being told to consider it hypothetical to be rather
close to badgering and forcing. Particularly when his earlier fuzzy posts
made it clear to me that he felt providing the details could have been
detrimental to his career and he would have preferred to have kept it a
nebuluous hypothetical situation of scripting/command line configuration.
Of course, I do deal with things like confidential and classified projects
and files far more often in my line of work, so I can understand and
respect when someone is evassive about details. They often have a valid
reason for being so, such as being restricted by classified status or
political environments.

Anyways, this is the last I will say on the matter. Either you will get my
point and be more understanding of people speaking on a hypothetical level
in the future or you won't. To go further is to go down the path of a
flame war and I don't think this situation warrants it.

On Wednesday 22 September 2004 06:36 pm, Lew Pitcher did deign to grace us
with the following:

> No.
>
> As I said before
> 1) I used the KDE controlpanel printer config to set up cups on my laptop,
> and 2) I'm looking for a commandline/config file way to configure cups,
> not
> another GUI/interactive method.
>
> Thanks, anyway
>
What does links do to the cups page?

Thanks,
Rich

On Wednesday 22 September 2004 06:58 pm, Lew Pitcher did deign to grace us
with the following:

> So, you see, having someone sit at a web browser or some other GUI or
> interactive process and manually configure each of 1500+ systems is not an
> option. Hence the configfile and script process I'm looking for.
>
>
> Now, none of this is even in the speculation stage, let alone under
> investigation. But I want to be prepared.
>
There's nothing to it.

You have all the server configurations, right? (like a map of who talks
to what)

What you do is, one or two times, sit and install by hand, in excruciating
detail, and write down every single thing you do.

Maybe do this to 3 or 4. Soon, a pattern will emerge.

Take what you've learned and write a script that just does what you did,
based on information in the "map" files I mentioned above.

And a cron job to run updates would be almost trivial.

And are you the guy who wanted a text-only printer config? How about
links at the cups browser page?

Have Fun!
Rich

On Thursday 23 September 2004 05:03 am, Lew Pitcher did deign to grace us
with the following:

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> Dominik L.. Borkowski wrote:
....
>> Interesting, thanks for filling us in. Few thoughts:
> [snip]
>> and thanks for sheding some light on this. it's hard to guess if what the
>> overall goal of a project is, judging from a few small notes.
>
> I cannot stress too greatly that all of this is *hypothetical*.
>
I can't help but wonder why all the emphasis on hypothetical, hush-hush,
yadda blah. Are you actually trying to get somebody to write some auto
install scripts for you so you can take the credit? Have people been sending
resumes? :-)

Just curious ...

Cheers!
Rich

Cichlidiot wrote:

> You are missing my point. Sometimes the ONLY client is LOCALHOST, ie
> automated processes on the machine and people logged into the machine. In
> such cases, firewalling the network port is not only inconsequential to
> the intended activities of the "server", but also a good idea. For
> example, in my lab, everyone maintains their own print server because the
> central print server got fried in a power outage a couple years ago and
> the post-doc in charge of it never rebuilt it. None of the other students
> wish to take over the role of sys admin due to the transient nature of
> their time in the labs (most are masters students only there for a year)
> or because they don't want to tread on the toes of this post-doc, so
> pretty much everyone has access restricted to localhost and/or firewalls.

> You kept asking for the situation, which he finally provided. I can only
> hope that his providing details does not put his job in jeopardy should
> his boss(es) read the post and find his disclaimers insufficient. I find
> such asking after being told to consider it hypothetical to be rather
> close to badgering and forcing. Particularly when his earlier fuzzy posts
> made it clear to me that he felt providing the details could have been
> detrimental to his career and he would have preferred to have kept it a
> nebuluous hypothetical situation of scripting/command line configuration.
> Of course, I do deal with things like confidential and classified projects
> and files far more often in my line of work, so I can understand and
> respect when someone is evassive about details. They often have a valid
> reason for being so, such as being restricted by classified status or
> political environments.
>
> Anyways, this is the last I will say on the matter. Either you will get my
> point and be more understanding of people speaking on a hypothetical level
> in the future or you won't. To go further is to go down the path of a
> flame war and I don't think this situation warrants it.

Sure. And that's why you provided no input to the discussion besides
complaining about one innocent sentence: "out of curiosity, what are your
circumstances". Yet the OP thanked me for my suggestions. Nobody asked him
to reveal trade secrets, locations of nukes, naming people, naming
organizations, giving numbers on how many offices there are, what's the
brand of coffee his boss drinks and so on. It's great that you "understood"
his situation so clear, too bad it didn't result in any clear help.

nello.sola@libero.it (Nello Sola) wrote in message news:<4d3b3a23.0409221226.143f08b8@posting.google. com>...

> I wrote my own mini-howto, but it is in Italian; sorry, but I have no
> time to translate it now.
>
> If you want, I can post it.

I'd really appreciate if you would post it or mail it to me, I'm
trying to get my usb printer working but i always get a lot of errors.

Thanks,


Stefano

Dominik L.. Borkowski <dom@vbi.vt.edu> wrote:
> Sure. And that's why you provided no input to the discussion besides
> complaining about one innocent sentence: "out of curiosity, what are your
> circumstances". Yet the OP thanked me for my suggestions. Nobody asked him
> to reveal trade secrets, locations of nukes, naming people, naming
> organizations, giving numbers on how many offices there are, what's the
> brand of coffee his boss drinks and so on. It's great that you "understood"
> his situation so clear, too bad it didn't result in any clear help.

Ah. gotta love that selective memory where my giving specific chapters in
the manual, a specific command to look into (lpadmin), a reference to a
man file and a suggestion to look into a specific directory are all
considered not "result[ing] in any clear help". Yep, I have one response
to you Dominik. *Plonk*

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> true power of web based interfaces: you can go anywhere and manage your
> resources. no need for ssh/telnet clients,

<tongue in cheek since I am using slrn via ssh right now>
But how am I going to get the browser without the ssh client?
</tongue in cheek since I am using slrn via ssh right now>

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