I notice that in a message to the slackware-security list Pat has
stated that he believes it is time to remove Epiphany and Galeon in
favour of Mozilla/Firefox.

Isn't Epiphany a part of the base GNOME system? Surely without it GNOME
is incomplete?

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http://www.chadfield.com/

> I notice that in a message to the slackware-security list Pat has
> stated that he believes it is time to remove Epiphany and Galeon in
> favour of Mozilla/Firefox.
>
> Isn't Epiphany a part of the base GNOME system? Surely without it GNOME
> is incomplete?

Gnome's standard browser is Galeon. I've run it without Epiphany for
quite a while without problems.

~Mik

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Bottom-Top Programming gets you where you never wanted to go.

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Mario Berger <no_damned_spam@nospam.no> wrote:
>> I notice that in a message to the slackware-security list Pat has
>> stated that he believes it is time to remove Epiphany and Galeon in
>> favour of Mozilla/Firefox.
>>
>> Isn't Epiphany a part of the base GNOME system? Surely without it GNOME
>> is incomplete?
>
> Gnome's standard browser is Galeon. I've run it without Epiphany for
> quite a while without problems.

Epiphany has been the default since GNOME 2.4:

<http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1495138,00.asp>

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http://www.chadfield.com/

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:26:17 +0000, Stephen Chadfield wrote:

> I notice that in a message to the slackware-security list Pat has stated
> that he believes it is time to remove Epiphany and Galeon in favour of
> Mozilla/Firefox.
>
> Isn't Epiphany a part of the base GNOME system? Surely without it GNOME is
> incomplete?


Nevertheless, Gnome works fine without them. I think Mozilla will probably
be dropped in the future, as well, in favor of Firefox and Thunderbird,
with Mozilla melding completely into Netscape. I know whenever I used to
upgrade Mozilla, my Epiphany and Galeon broke, so I just stopped using
them.

I'm thinking we might stop using Moz ourselves and start using
Firefox/Thunderbird here... they both work very good and they are
supported well.



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In alt.os.linux.slackware, Gary Carlson dared to utter,
> I think Mozilla will probably
> be dropped in the future, as well, in favor of Firefox and Thunderbird,
> with Mozilla melding completely into Netscape.

I agree. While I haven't used Thunderbird, I can say for certain that
Firefox is a kick ass browser that's an order of magnitude better than
mozilla for that task. Not only is it much smaller even with loads of
plugins, the browser loads and renders pages much quicker. All in all,
I see no reason why anyone uses mozilla for web browsing these days.

> I know whenever I used to
> upgrade Mozilla, my Epiphany and Galeon broke, so I just stopped using
> them.

I just stopped upgrading mozilla. :^) I still think Galeon is a better
browser than firefox if only for the great book mark editing. I'll
likely continue to use Galeon over Firefox even if that means compiling
my own package.

- --
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Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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Mario Berger wrote:

> Gnome's standard browser is Galeon. I've run it without Epiphany for
> quite a while without problems.
>

Galeon was removed as well. Basically, neither will work securely at this
point, because they have not been updated to compile against the most
recent, and only secure version of Mozilla.

Jeffrey

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+Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.network> wrote:
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> In alt.os.linux.slackware, Gary Carlson dared to utter,
>> I think Mozilla will probably
>> be dropped in the future, as well, in favor of Firefox and Thunderbird,
>> with Mozilla melding completely into Netscape.
>
> I agree. While I haven't used Thunderbird, I can say for certain that
> Firefox is a kick ass browser that's an order of magnitude better than
> mozilla for that task. Not only is it much smaller even with loads of
> plugins, the browser loads and renders pages much quicker. All in all,
> I see no reason why anyone uses mozilla for web browsing these days.
>
>> I know whenever I used to
>> upgrade Mozilla, my Epiphany and Galeon broke, so I just stopped using
>> them.
>
> I just stopped upgrading mozilla. :^) I still think Galeon is a better
> browser than firefox if only for the great book mark editing. I'll
> likely continue to use Galeon over Firefox even if that means compiling
> my own package.
>
> - --
> It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
> Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
> Ecclesiastes 7:5
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Gary Carlson <gcarlsonNO@mySPAMway.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 19:26:17 +0000, Stephen Chadfield wrote:
>
>> I notice that in a message to the slackware-security list Pat has stated
>> that he believes it is time to remove Epiphany and Galeon in favour of
>> Mozilla/Firefox.
>>
>> Isn't Epiphany a part of the base GNOME system? Surely without it GNOME is
>> incomplete?
>
>
> Nevertheless, Gnome works fine without them. I think Mozilla will probably
> be dropped in the future, as well, in favor of Firefox and Thunderbird,
> with Mozilla melding completely into Netscape. I know whenever I used to
> upgrade Mozilla, my Epiphany and Galeon broke, so I just stopped using
> them.

You can take many applications out of GNOME without breaking it but that
doesn't mean it is a good idea. GNOME was supposed to supply a complete,
integrated desktop whose applications follow the HIG.

As non-GNOME programs neither Mozilla or FireFox are currently, or are
likely to become in the future, properly integrated GNOME applications.

If Pat removes Epiphany from GNOME then AFAIC Slackware's GNOME package
will be incomplete.

--
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http://www.chadfield.com/

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> In alt.os.linux.slackware, Gary Carlson dared to utter,
>
>>I think Mozilla will probably
>>be dropped in the future, as well, in favor of Firefox and Thunderbird,
>>with Mozilla melding completely into Netscape.
>
>
> I agree. While I haven't used Thunderbird, I can say for certain that
> Firefox is a kick ass browser that's an order of magnitude better than
> mozilla for that task. Not only is it much smaller even with loads of
> plugins, the browser loads and renders pages much quicker. All in all,
> I see no reason why anyone uses mozilla for web browsing these days.
>
>
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I find that is just not true, Mozilla, though takes longer to start,
once up is far more usable than the overrated Firefox, the integrated
News and Mail modules are a joy to use. That's the reason people use
Mozilla, its still number one.
Talking about using on a 56K dialup and PentII.

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In alt.os.linux.slackware, nalsing dared to utter,
> I find that is just not true, Mozilla, though takes longer to start,
> once up is far more usable than the overrated Firefox, the integrated
> News and Mail modules are a joy to use.

So you're telling me that Firefox + Thunderbird isn't faster than
Mozilla doing those same tasks. I find that insane. I've done many
tests (rather anecdotal but still) and ever time the smaller utilities
with a more narrow scope combine to produce a better system than the
bloat that is Mozilla.

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It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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