The Eighth Doctor wrote :

> Seriously, what did happen?

There's been canceled something like 500 messages in this group by
somebody sitting at:
NNTP-Posting-Host: london-hse-ppp3547903.sympatico.ca
--
Thomas O.

This area is designed to become quite warm during normal operation.

Google groups is behaving very erratically at the moment with this NG
but others are o.k. There are only new posts appearing after the troll
deluge, but not all of them are showing up. I checked with Pan and they
are all still there. I used free-text.usenetserver.com, which should be
public. My ISP doesn't have a news server on the contract I have with
them. However I do have a 2Mb DSL line, so google groups is far more
convenient for me to use.

In article <s3ita2-ua1.ln1@news.inet.tele.dk>, thover@post2.tele.dk says...
>
>
>The Eighth Doctor wrote :
>
>> Seriously, what did happen?
>
>There's been canceled something like 500 messages in this group by
>somebody sitting at:
>NNTP-Posting-Host: london-hse-ppp3547903.sympatico.ca
>--
>Thomas O.
>
>This area is designed to become quite warm during normal operation.
Hello from the Eighth Doctor
I think I'll make myself lost.......... Thank you! Let's see if the dolt does it again.
--
Gregg drwho8 atsign att dot net

The Eighth Doctor wrote :

> I think I'll make myself lost.......... Thank you!

Some of your messages is actually lost, i did find a cancel on one of
your posts to.

> Let's see if the dolt does it again.

Let hope that the abuse-handlers does a proper job.
--
Thomas O.

This area is designed to become quite warm during normal operation.

Thomas Overgaard wrote:

> There's been canceled something like 500 messages in this group by
> somebody sitting at:
> NNTP-Posting-Host: london-hse-ppp3547903.sympatico.ca

1. your kung-fu is greater than mine (favourite line from X-Files)
2. did you forward this and your evidence to sympatico.ca
3. does this make sense?
a. London = London, Ontario
b. HSE = "High Speed Edition" (actual trade name for Sympatico's
high-speed dialup Internet service
c. ppp3547903 = a 519 (London region) area code phone number
d. sympatico.ca = perhaps the village idiot's ISP
4. all info in 3 was forged? it's all just guessing from me
5. if it was the village idiot, I'd like to see him expunged from usenet

prodigal1 wrote:
> c. ppp3547903 = a 519 (London region) area code phone number
> d. sympatico.ca = perhaps the village idiot's ISP

here's what a reverse lookup of this number from bell.ca sez

> We're sorry. We did not find a listing for the phone number you entered.
> The phone number "(519) 354-7903" is a Chatham, ON based phone number and the registered carrier is Bell Canada.
> However, due to number portability, some numbers have been transferred to a new service provider other than the registered carrier.

Thomas Overgaard <thover@post2.tele.dk> wrote:

> There's been canceled something like 500 messages in this group by
> somebody sitting at:
> NNTP-Posting-Host: london-hse-ppp3547903.sympatico.ca

Hmm... and would it be coincidence that our resident troll also happens to
use Sympatico, as does the recent spammer? Somehow I doubt it. Well, I
could give Sympatico the benefit of a doubt. Perhaps they were trying to
clean up the mess their user(s) caused and went a little overboard on
issuing cancels. Whatever it was, it even messed up Google's cache of
certain recent informative threads, which is quite pathetic on several
fronts.

Cichlidiot wrote :

> Well, I could give Sympatico the benefit of a doubt. Perhaps they were
> trying to clean up the mess their user(s) caused and went a little
> overboard on issuing cancels.

Thats definitely not what happened. The attacker did log on to a
newsserver in Ukraine Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:24:00 GMT from 65.93.34.40
london-hse-ppp3547903.sympatico.ca and within the next hour he deleted
some 400 messages.

Then he returned the next day Wed, 5 Jan 2005 12:35:03 +0000 (UTC) to
the same server from 67.70.204.204 toronto-hse-ppp3907393.sympatico.ca
and within the next half hour he deleted some extra 100 messages.
--
Thomas O.

This area is designed to become quite warm during normal operation.

On 2005-01-06, Thomas Overgaard <thover@post2.tele.dk> espoused the following:
>
> Cichlidiot wrote :
>
>> Well, I could give Sympatico the benefit of a doubt. Perhaps they were
>> trying to clean up the mess their user(s) caused and went a little
>> overboard on issuing cancels.
>
> Thats definitely not what happened. The attacker did log on to a
> newsserver in Ukraine Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:24:00 GMT from 65.93.34.40
> london-hse-ppp3547903.sympatico.ca and within the next hour he deleted
> some 400 messages.
>
> Then he returned the next day Wed, 5 Jan 2005 12:35:03 +0000 (UTC) to
> the same server from 67.70.204.204 toronto-hse-ppp3907393.sympatico.ca
> and within the next half hour he deleted some extra 100 messages.

If you still have the evidence of that, you should post it to
news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Perhaps they can threaten sympatico.ca with the UDP (usenet death penalty)
if they do not rectify this situation. Wouldn't that be nice if our troll
finally stepped in it bad enough to be cut off permanently. According to
the FAQ, repetitive rogue cancellations is grounds.

--
Only trust pipesmoking penguins.

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In alt.os.linux.slackware, Scott Cole dared to utter,
> If you still have the evidence of that, you should post it to
> news.admin.net-abuse.usenet

I'm not certain a UDP is valid yet. The Usenet Death Penalty is a last
resort for abusive sites. Certainly large rogue cancellations are
grounds, but I wonder how long this activity will continue. If the
cancellations do continue, then certainly I'll join in a call for a UDP
of sympatico.ca (at least for the alt.os hierarchy), but I don't think
trolls (even really nasty ones) alone are enough to call for a UDP.

- --
It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise,
Than for a man to hear the song of fools.
Ecclesiastes 7:5
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