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Old 02-20-2008, 07:18 AM
Longfellow
 
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Default [OT] Bochs questions.

Sorry about the OT, but no luck with the "emulator" NGs and google has
nothing useful. I ask here because the locals are arguably more
knowledgeable that those in other Linux NGs.

Running Slackware 10.0 / 2.6.7.

I want to run Windows 95 in an emulator (have an app that only runs in
W95). Can't use Wine because I don't have W95 on my system. So I've
chosen Bochs. Anyone with any experience with W95 in Bochs under Linux?
My email address is my sig; please contact me.

Thanks,

Longfellow
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:19 AM
rlworkman@gmail.com
 
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Default Re: Bochs questions.

Linux Magazine had a good article on QEMU (an emulator) this month;
look for it at your local bookstore... It's supposed to be easy and
fast, but I've not tried it out as of yet...

RW

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Old 02-20-2008, 07:19 AM
Kurt Fitzner (kfitzner at excelcia period org)
 
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Longfellow wrote:

> I want to run Windows 95 in an emulator (have an app that only runs in
> W95). Can't use Wine because I don't have W95 on my system. So I've
> chosen Bochs. Anyone with any experience with W95 in Bochs under Linux?
> My email address is my sig; please contact me.


Umm... I'm a little confused. How do you expect to run W95 under Bochs
if you don't have it on your system? You're going to have to put it on
your system to do that. And when you do put it on your system, you'll
get way better performance from Wine than from Bochs.

Kurt.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:19 AM
Longfellow
 
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Default Re: [OT] Bochs questions.

On 2005-04-01, Kurt Fitzner (kfitzner at excelcia period org)
<spammers@go.to.hell> wrote:
>
> Longfellow wrote:
>
>> I want to run Windows 95 in an emulator (have an app that only runs in
>> W95). Can't use Wine because I don't have W95 on my system. So I've
>> chosen Bochs. Anyone with any experience with W95 in Bochs under Linux?
>> My email address is my sig; please contact me.

>
> Umm... I'm a little confused. How do you expect to run W95 under Bochs
> if you don't have it on your system? You're going to have to put it on
> your system to do that. And when you do put it on your system, you'll
> get way better performance from Wine than from Bochs.
>
> Kurt.


Well, actually, installing w95 is my problem. HTH does on install it
without having it grab the MBR and screw over whatever else is on hda1?

I've got w98 there now, hasn't been booted in living memory but the
minute I get rid of it.... well, you know.. So I was going to try to
install w95 in a directory to mount via loopback or whatever bochs
requires. But there's a problem I'd like to resolve before I get there:
a) the instructions for loading up w95 is for a disk set and b) I've got
an upgrade CD. I'm sorta stumped by this business and would like to
know wth I'm missing (or just don't understand...).

What I'd really like to know is how to extract a .dll file from the w95
CD to satisfy the one requirement (?) that both w98 and wine say is
missing. The chances of my discovering this on a windows NG seem rather
dismal, I would suspect. I mean, you guys probably know more about how
one would go about doing that than the M$addicts...lol!!!

Wish I'd kept the tape backup of w95... sigh.

Any ideas? If so, my email address is my sig....

Longfellow
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:19 AM
Longfellow
 
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Default Re: Bochs questions.

On 2005-04-01, rlworkman@gmail.com <rlworkman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Linux Magazine had a good article on QEMU (an emulator) this month;
> look for it at your local bookstore... It's supposed to be easy and
> fast, but I've not tried it out as of yet...
>
> RW
>


Thanks! I'll check it out!

Longfellow
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:19 AM
john
 
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 18:19:37 -0800, rlworkman wrote:

> Linux Magazine had a good article on QEMU (an emulator) this month;
> look for it at your local bookstore... It's supposed to be easy and
> fast, but I've not tried it out as of yet...


I've tried QEMU; it's quite good and reasonably fast. Works fine with
Win98, so Win95 should be no problem. You just install Windows from the
CD in the usual way, into a disk file instead of a separate partition.

Bochs is *very* slow.

John

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Old 02-20-2008, 07:19 AM
Two Ravens
 
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Longfellow wrote:

<snip>

> Any ideas? If so, my email address is my sig....
>
> Longfellow


Why do you want the answers sent to your email address? the usual
procedure is for any answers to be posted to the news group, that way
there is a record of that particular problem, and its suggested
solution maintained for any who may need it in future.

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Old 02-20-2008, 07:19 AM
Giovanni
 
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On 04/01/05 01:04, Longfellow wrote:
> Sorry about the OT, but no luck with the "emulator" NGs and google has
> nothing useful. I ask here because the locals are arguably more
> knowledgeable that those in other Linux NGs.
>
> Running Slackware 10.0 / 2.6.7.
>
> I want to run Windows 95 in an emulator (have an app that only runs in
> W95). Can't use Wine because I don't have W95 on my system. So I've
> chosen Bochs. Anyone with any experience with W95 in Bochs under Linux?
> My email address is my sig; please contact me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Longfellow


I didn't try Win95 but I was able to use WinXp installed on a virtual
disk running Bochs. It took a lot of time to install it, but it worked.

If I remeber correctly the Bochs documentation explains how to install
and run Win95.

Ciao
Giovanni
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it stops working when you open Windows.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:20 AM
Thomas Overgaard
 
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Longfellow wrote :

> So I was going to try to install w95 in a directory to mount via
> loopback or whatever bochs requires.


If your using Bochs then Win95 is installed inside a file similar to a
loop-mounted image. I've had Bochs up running DOS 6.2 & Win3.11 and it
worked but Bochs gave me the impression that its still very immature and
it needs a lot of development.
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Old 02-20-2008, 07:20 AM
Doug Mitton
 
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Longfellow <no-one@this.address> wrote:

>Sorry about the OT, but no luck with the "emulator" NGs and google has
>nothing useful. I ask here because the locals are arguably more
>knowledgeable that those in other Linux NGs.
>
>Running Slackware 10.0 / 2.6.7.
>
>I want to run Windows 95 in an emulator (have an app that only runs in
>W95). Can't use Wine because I don't have W95 on my system. So I've
>chosen Bochs. Anyone with any experience with W95 in Bochs under Linux?
>My email address is my sig; please contact me.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Longfellow


I don't think you need Win95 to use WINE and the Win95 application.
Wine has an option to setup a "fake" windows system. You still must
install your application so the proper DLLs and registry entries are
present BUT its not always necessary to have MSWin installed to use
WINE! (As far as my experience has been anyway.)

Good luck!
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