No_One wrote:

>
> ac is a just another peddler of philisophical positions for which there
> are
> no real answers. It's safe and self validating...no one can be right and
> no
> one can be wrong. It's the perfect middle ground for ac, it's where he's
> comfortable and safe.
>

There is some truth to this. But I'm OUT THERE. I use my real name. I can be
FOUND. I'm not a shadow.

You, Ken, live in the darkness and take mean nasty shots at people who can't
see you.

Given the choice of being me or you, I choose honesty and integrity every
time.

Al C.

On 2005-05-08, Al. C <no_spam_ac3_takeout@adams-blake.nospam.com> wrote:
> No_One wrote:
>
>>
>> ac is a just another peddler of philisophical positions for which there
>> are
>> no real answers. It's safe and self validating...no one can be right and
>> no
>> one can be wrong. It's the perfect middle ground for ac, it's where he's
>> comfortable and safe.
>>
>
> There is some truth to this. But I'm OUT THERE. I use my real name. I can be
> FOUND. I'm not a shadow.
>
> You, Ken, live in the darkness and take mean nasty shots at people who can't
> see you.

If what I've said above has some element of truth, then there can be nothing
mean or nasty in my comments. The truth is not a nasty shot.

>
> Given the choice of being me or you, I choose honesty and integrity every
> time.

Trust me, I too am glad you're not me. However, I find it curious that you
equate revealing a name with honesty and integrity. As a publisher you
SHOULD know many writers use pen names. As a businessman you SHOULD know
many financial institutions allow the use of alias accounts for trusted
customers. None of the above examples have anything to do with lack of
honesty or integrity.

ken

No_One wrote:

> As a publisher you
> SHOULD know many writers use pen names.

Ken, are you a professional author? I don't think so. But since you live in
the darkness you can claim to be anything you want. Right?

Anyway, pen names are done for marketing reasons not for reasons of trying
to hide from something. The serious novelist or college professor or
politician might write pulp-fiction under an assumed name, but in the
industry everyone knows whom he or she is. Or an actor with a difficult
name takes a stage name. Do some research on who Marion Michael Morrison
was.


> As a businessman you SHOULD know
> many financial institutions allow the use of alias accounts for trusted
> customers.

Name me one USA financial institution that allows this. I want to call them
and verify it.


> None of the above examples have anything to do with lack of
> honesty or integrity.

The fact that you malign people but refuse to identify yourself has
everything to do with honesty and integrity. You're a sniper firing from
the dark shadows. No one sees you, no one knows you. You wreck your havoc
and have the belief that you can attain respectability via the
rationalization that writers and actors use 'professional names." That may
work with some of the howling pack here, but it won't wash with me, and you
know it.

Even if you were rational; even if you were brilliant, you'd still be
considered a coward in polite society. But this is a.o.l.s. and any
resemblance to polite or civilized society is purely coincidental.... as
your posts; your vicious attacks have so clearly illustrated.

Al C.

Al. C wrote:
>
> I'm INTERESTED in the 'business' of Linux and its distros and I ENJOY the
> discourse on such topics with others who have a similar interest. I enjoy
> discussing Slackware from the 'framework' of where it fits into the overall
> Linux 'market' and how it compares to other distros in the media and the
> balance sheet.

You know, I know, and the rest of the group knows that discussing
Slackware's business model and other aspects of how Slackware as a
company is run in this NG is a waste of time. This discussion can only
be held with mister Volkerding, so please stop your postings about this
topic. And no, this is not a personal attack on you, its only my opinion
as a Slackware user able to think and express my opinions :-)

On Sun, 08 May 2005 20:31:36 +0000, Al. C wrote:

> Franklin wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 08 May 2005 18:26:15 +0000, Al. C wrote:
>>
>> Yes I'm rude.
>> So what.
>
> Yeah, because we ALL KNOW its just about you! What are you? 15? Maybe 18?
> Grow up, son.
>
Again with the age thing. What's your point exactly. Do you know how
silly you look when you make assumptions like that? At least I'm trying
to look silly. I know alot of 15 year olds that have a better grasp of
reality that you seem to.

>> Personally, I vote for senile which was the reason for my car keys
>> comment. But what do I know.
>
> You know how to be rude. Obviously for you that's enough. But I tell you
> the truth. It will not be enough for you to "make it" in the world your
> generation will inherit.

Yes I do! I find myself terribly amusing! Don't you?
>
> You missed it by about 35 years.
>
> [snipped another Al. C history lesson]
>
> See what I mean? Is the past prologue? You make the call!

OK, I call you incapable of seeing that you are guilty of the same
intellectual subversion you just blabbered on about. I disagreed with
you, I pointed out the flawed logic of your rant, and you label me a
cultural extremist rather than attempt to support your poor excuse of a
position. I disagree therefor I am the enemy - a threat to freedom and
Al's persuit of his version of reality. And the worst of all - I'm rude
when I argue! [wipes tear from eye] "As soon as we get rid of all those
rude slackers (says Al), no one will be left to disagree with me.
The world will be perfect again. I can continue to partake in public
displays of mental masturbation without the fear of having to
actually defend my incorrect assumptions." Welcome to Al's world.
>
> Al C. - legend in his own mind.

On 2005-05-08, Al. C <no_spam_ac3_takeout@adams-blake.nospam.com> wrote:
>
> Anyway, pen names are done for marketing reasons not for reasons of trying
> to hide from something. The serious novelist or college professor or
> politician might write pulp-fiction under an assumed name, but in the
> industry everyone knows whom he or she is. Or an actor with a difficult

The operative point is that the general public does not...hence the reason
for pen names. otherwise, pen names would be pretentious, you know, like
quoting a french saying in french then providing an english
translation...pretentious

> name takes a stage name. Do some research on who Marion Michael Morrison
> was.

Pen names have a long history in this country. The Federalist Papers were
orginally written under the pen name Publis, in place of Hamilton, Madison
and Jay. You might want to check out the following souces to expand you
knowledge as a publisher and writer

cato institute, they have a document on the use of pen names, I don't have
a URL.

also www.trussel.com/books/pseudo.htm

>
>
>> As a businessman you SHOULD know
>> many financial institutions allow the use of alias accounts for trusted
>> customers.
>
> Name me one USA financial institution that allows this. I want to call them
> and verify it.

Call your branch manager or google for alias checking account, your choice.
Another case of you reading what you want...I never restricted the banks to
us banks and I'm not doing your research for you.

> everything to do with honesty and integrity. You're a sniper firing from
> the dark shadows. No one sees you, no one knows you. You wreck your havoc
> and have the belief that you can attain respectability via the
> rationalization that writers and actors use 'professional names." That may
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Never ever said this, show me. Show me now!!!! I never said a word about
actors, try to be more precise...journalism 101. You're pulling your usual
trick of distortion.


> work with some of the howling pack here, but it won't wash with me, and you
> know it.
>
> Even if you were rational; even if you were brilliant, you'd still be
> considered a coward in polite society.

"Polite society" is just another name for a group of people imposing a set
of standards on someone else...wait a minute, hell....that's what you're
accussing aols of....hey herd, we's polite society now!!! Hot damn!!!

ken

Trygve Selmer wrote:



> You know, I know, and the rest of the group knows that discussing
> Slackware's business model and other aspects of how Slackware as a
> company is run in this NG is a waste of time. This discussion can only
> be held with mister Volkerding,

Uh, where is this written into law? Does this mean we can only discuss Linux
kernels with Linus? Oracle with Larry? Windows with Bill?

And how is that ANYONE gets to define what a 'waste of time' is for me? I
don't remember seeing any charter for this ng saying what is and what is
not off-topic.... much less what is or what is not a 'waste of time.'

> so please stop your postings about this
> topic


Don't read the thread if you don't like it or don't want to contribute, but
may I politely please implore you to try not to dictate to anyone what can
and can't be posted here. The ng belongs to everyone... and no one.

Aren't Slackware people always proclaiming that 'choice is good'?

Al C.

On Sun, 08 May 2005 23:19:33 +0000, Al. C wrote:

> Trygve Selmer wrote:
>
>
>
>> You know, I know, and the rest of the group knows that discussing
>> Slackware's business model and other aspects of how Slackware as a
>> company is run in this NG is a waste of time. This discussion can only
>> be held with mister Volkerding,
>
> Uh, where is this written into law? Does this mean we can only discuss Linux
> kernels with Linus? Oracle with Larry? Windows with Bill?

I think he meant that there was no potential for useful outcome unless the
issue was discussed directly with these individuals, making your pointless
rants here - well... pointless. Do you really fail to understand or are
you being difficult again? You old codgers are all the same! Go eat some
prunes for Christs sake.

>
> And how is that ANYONE gets to define what a 'waste of time' is for me?
> I don't remember seeing any charter for this ng saying what is and what
> is not off-topic.... much less what is or what is not a 'waste of time.'
>
>> so please stop your postings about this topic
>
>
> Don't read the thread if you don't like it or don't want to contribute,
> but may I politely please implore you to try not to dictate to anyone
> what can and can't be posted here. The ng belongs to everyone... and no
> one.
>
> Aren't Slackware people always proclaiming that 'choice is good'?
>
> Al C.

You know Al, he was being very nice. Why are you being rude to him?
I think you owe him an apology.

"BenneJezzerette" <jennifer755@cox.net> wrote in message
news:B1bfe.3714$Fa1.113@fed1read02...

> Firstly KDE is being
> updated, then GXine too, and some other things,

No, KDE hasn't been upgraded. It's been recompiled with the cyrus-sasl
library.

> the BEST part of all
> this, is Linux 2.4.30 is next. Yes it looks official, that PV has made a
> move up to the Linux 2.4.30 Kernel and we will see some improvements in
> performance.

er, an update of 1 minor version is unlikely to make much difference in
terms of performance, but in any event this is merely an update in -current
to keep up with current releases. I think PV stated elsewhere that 2.6 will
be the default in 11.0.

>If you want use gFTP and log into the FTP server and look
> into the -current and you will see a lot of new Linux 2.4.30 files, alsa
> and more.

No, alsa hasn't been updated. It's merely been rebuilt with new kernel, as
per correct practice.

On another note, given you're of the lowest user level in this group and you
(apparently) know how to use an ftp client, do you really envisage that
there are others here (predominantly of a higher user knowledge level) who
don't?

> I think maybe 10.2 or even 11.0 may be on the horizon for
> release soon. For all you who think PV has not been doing much, this
> tells me he has been working hard on improving Slackware.

Not likely. 10.1 was released like 1/2 months ago. Any new release will be a
while off yet.

Franklin wrote:

>At least I'm trying
> to look silly. I know alot of 15 year olds that have a better grasp of
> reality that you seem to.
>

I think I know why.


>
> I find myself terribly amusing! Don't you?
>>

Not so much.


> I disagree therefor I am the enemy

Hardly. You're not the enemy. You're the competition.... but not serious
competition.


> And the worst of all - I'm rude
> when I argue!

Um, YOU were the one who called yourself 'rude.' I merely agreed. How do
feet taste?

>> legend in his own mind.

Would you believe that people are still using that tired old trite phrase?
Of course I can't believe that people are still writing "Would you
believe."

Max, where are you when we need you? KAOS has taken over a.o.l.s.!!!
http://www.wouldyoubelieve.com

Now we're getting silly. I'll respond if you (anyone) wish to continue...
but I think we should call it a day. Indeed, the REAL a.o.l.s. is on TV
tonight.... HBO's Deadwood :-) <g>
http://www.hbo.com/deadwood/episode/...pisode01.shtml


Al C.