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Old 02-20-2008, 08:58 AM
Mr.Jason
 
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> Ask someone who cares, technology is not a belief system, I choose
> Intel pro/100 over RTL-8139 for a 50% measured performance boost on
> _my_ equipment, and I trust the person taking the measurements.
>
> I don't give a rat's ring for your opinion, I'm secure in my
> competency. Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one.
>
> --Grant.


I feel my system is also pretty much faster! I just wonder if I got also 50%
increase in performance, I think you mean mostly networking performance? Did
you experience performance boost on another applications too?

Yes, lets all make huge bonfire of our RTL based cards. Oh wait, I think its
not environmental..
Mr.Jason
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:58 AM
Loki Harfagr
 
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Le Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:06:20 +0300, Mr.Jason a écrit*:

>> Ask someone who cares, technology is not a belief system, I choose
>> Intel pro/100 over RTL-8139 for a 50% measured performance boost on
>> _my_ equipment, and I trust the person taking the measurements.
>>
>> I don't give a rat's ring for your opinion, I'm secure in my
>> competency. Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one.
>>
>> --Grant.

>
> I feel my system is also pretty much faster! I just wonder if I got also 50%
> increase in performance, I think you mean mostly networking performance? Did
> you experience performance boost on another applications too?


Yes, sure, the printing is much sharper, and the screen colours are
brighter, that's because of the bosons restored from the task of
spinning the Realtek I/O electrons on the correct revolution speed.

And in case you have a floppy, you'll notice dramatic enhancements
in pace and space !
I can now copy Gigabytes in zilch time on my floppies !!!


Here, 1.4 GB :

# dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 seek=1440000 count=0


Hurray !-)

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Old 02-20-2008, 08:58 AM
+Alan Hicks+
 
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> Opinions are like arseholes, everybody has one.


And no one thinks his stinks.

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Old 02-20-2008, 08:58 AM
Daniel de Kok
 
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 10:56:10 +0000, Grant Coady wrote:
> Ask someone who cares, technology is not a belief system, I choose
> Intel pro/100 over RTL-8139 for a 50% measured performance boost on
> _my_ equipment, and I trust the person taking the measurements.


A 50% performance boost is pretty unbelievable, don't you think? I guess
that is what you get looking at the Windows XP task manager. Anyway, I
just did some quick benchmarking with netperf. One PII-400 machine here
with a 5 year old Intel EtherExpress Pro 100 card is outperforming a
brand-new RTL8139D on a AMD64 2800+ machine. Both cards were blasting
packets to a high-end new Tulip NIC based card. The RTL8139 had a
throughtput of 93MBit, where the Intel NIC had a throughput of 95MBit.
Pretty good for a 5 year old Intel, compared to a new Realtek NIC.

The question is how both cards handle lots of different requests from
different hosts.

> I don't give a rat's ring for your opinion, I'm secure in my
> competency.


I am happy for you.

-- Daniel
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:58 AM
Mr.Jason
 
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> And in case you have a floppy, you'll notice dramatic enhancements
> in pace and space !
> I can now copy Gigabytes in zilch time on my floppies !!!
>
>
> Here, 1.4 GB :
>
> # dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 seek=1440000 count=0
>
>
> Hurray !-)


Oh really? is it true? I must give it a try. But don't the floppies need to
be special?
Where do I type that line?

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Old 02-20-2008, 08:58 AM
Loki Harfagr
 
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Le Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:08:06 +0300, Mr.Jason a écrit*:

>> And in case you have a floppy, you'll notice dramatic enhancements
>> in pace and space !
>> I can now copy Gigabytes in zilch time on my floppies !!!
>>
>>
>> Here, 1.4 GB :
>>
>> # dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 seek=1440000 count=0
>>
>>
>> Hurray !-)

>
> Oh really? is it true? I must give it a try. But don't the floppies need to
> be special?
> Where do I type that line?


Oh, you really wouldn't know ...
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:59 AM
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"Loki Harfagr" <lars.hummigeret@yahuu.no> wrote in message
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> Le Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:08:06 +0300, Mr.Jason a écrit :
>
>>> And in case you have a floppy, you'll notice dramatic enhancements
>>> in pace and space !
>>> I can now copy Gigabytes in zilch time on my floppies !!!
>>>
>>>
>>> Here, 1.4 GB :
>>>
>>> # dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 seek=1440000 count=0
>>>
>>>
>>> Hurray !-)

>>
>> Oh really? is it true? I must give it a try. But don't the floppies need
>> to
>> be special?
>> Where do I type that line?

>
> Oh, you really wouldn't know ...


I wouldn't know what? I really cant see where you are getting at.


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Old 02-20-2008, 08:59 AM
+Alan Hicks+
 
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+Alan Hicks+ <alan@lizella.network> trolled:

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Fuck off, Hicks.

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Old 02-20-2008, 08:59 AM
Grant Coady
 
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:04:42 +0200, Daniel de Kok <daniel@mindbender.nowhere> wrote:
>A 50% performance boost is pretty unbelievable, don't you think? I guess
>that is what you get looking at the Windows XP task manager.


Not really, box at other end has RAID0, also CPU limited, I suspect
that the Intel pro/100 offloading checksumming made the performance
boost, plus, the target machine is now running l-k 2.6 stable, previous
performance measure with RTL-8239 was when it running 2.4, but that
might be a few percent, not a jump from 50% to 78% 'net usage' on
single large file transfer on a very lightly loaded localnet. Up
until recently I assumed the task manager 'net use' maxed out at
50% for each direction, so seeing it much higher struck me as odd.

To be fair I should have tried both NICs in similar, but I'm not
that fussed over the issue.

Bought pro/100 s/h NIC for Wake on LAN function. Read the datasheet
and bought another for firewall box to localnet link, will pick up a
couple more as I spot them at local computer market.

>packets to a high-end new Tulip NIC based card. The RTL8139 had a
>throughtput of 93MBit, where the Intel NIC had a throughput of 95MBit.
>Pretty good for a 5 year old Intel, compared to a new Realtek NIC.


Fairly close then, the target box I have is pII-350, reiserfs over
RAID0, haven't got around to breaking the RAID and reinstalling yet.
Other things to do, it aint broke, experimental, non-optimal.
>
>The question is how both cards handle lots of different requests from
>different hosts.


That's an issue I don't face, only six boxen up. p233/mmx with 80MB
memory, not hitting swap, firewall, web server, localnet manager,
load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00. Suits me just fine. 98% idle,
streaming audio from Internet, load average peaked 0.06 with pII box
doing rsync for slack-current (nuthin' new today) just now.

--Grant.

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Old 02-20-2008, 09:00 AM
Loki Harfagr
 
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Le Wed, 01 Jun 2005 17:40:11 +0300, Mr.Jason a écrit*:

>>> Where do I type that line?

>>
>> Oh, you really wouldn't know ...

>
> I wouldn't know what?


Where to put that line ...
It was not much funny but it's even worse when overtold :-)

> I really cant see where you are getting at.


OK, I see, now you can stop taking librium ;-)
Or just switch to catnip ?
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