me again. not my day today. I mounted a remote mailbox to /var/spool/mail on
a local machine using mount. now i can read the mail in the mailboxes via vi
or a text editor but as soon as i try to read it using 'mail' it pauses for
a while then comes back with "Unable to lock mailbox: No locks available" I
have write access to that files so whats going on? Google was no help here

Darren wrote:

> me again. not my day today. I mounted a remote mailbox to /var/spool/mail
> on a local machine using mount. now i can read the mail in the mailboxes
> via vi or a text editor but as soon as i try to read it using 'mail' it
> pauses for a while then comes back with "Unable to lock mailbox: No locks
> available" I have write access to that files so whats going on? Google was
> no help here

out of curiosity, what kind of 'remote' connection is that? nfs?

Le Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:52:55 +0000, Darren a écrit*:

> me again. not my day today.

Ouch, we can see that ! Some days just never end ...

> I mounted a remote mailbox to /var/spool/mail on
> a local machine using mount. now i can read the mail in the mailboxes via vi
> or a text editor but as soon as i try to read it using 'mail' it pauses for
> a while then comes back with "Unable to lock mailbox: No locks available"

Have you been recently playing with NFS ?
Is it that your "remote mailbox" is NFS'd ?

Then you have what happens recurrently in these kind of
installations ... That's one of the reasons POP3 and IMAP
are there :-)

> I
> have write access to that files so whats going on? Google was no help here

Mmm, you Google is b0rken then )

Anyway, maybe you could try to see with 'lsof' if some clients
are not too greedy.

"Dominik L. Borkowski" <dom@vbi.vt.edu> wrote in message
news:d7ps85$20j$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu...
> Darren wrote:
>
> > me again. not my day today. I mounted a remote mailbox to
/var/spool/mail
> > on a local machine using mount. now i can read the mail in the mailboxes
> > via vi or a text editor but as soon as i try to read it using 'mail' it
> > pauses for a while then comes back with "Unable to lock mailbox: No
locks
> > available" I have write access to that files so whats going on? Google
was
> > no help here
>
> out of curiosity, what kind of 'remote' connection is that? nfs?
Didn't i say? *looks up* Damned I forgot to mention. Yes its nfs

"Loki Harfagr" <loki@DarkDesign.free.fr> wrote in message
news:42a08179$0$16146$626a14ce@news.free.fr...
> Le Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:52:55 +0000, Darren a écrit :
>
> > me again. not my day today.
>
> Ouch, we can see that ! Some days just never end ...
>
> > I mounted a remote mailbox to /var/spool/mail on
> > a local machine using mount. now i can read the mail in the mailboxes
via vi
> > or a text editor but as soon as i try to read it using 'mail' it pauses
for
> > a while then comes back with "Unable to lock mailbox: No locks
available"
>
> Have you been recently playing with NFS ?
> Is it that your "remote mailbox" is NFS'd ?
>
> Then you have what happens recurrently in these kind of
> installations ... That's one of the reasons POP3 and IMAP
> are there :-)
I use them bu default but tbh I wanted to play with nfs to get it working
>
> > I
> > have write access to that files so whats going on? Google was no help
here
>
> Mmm, you Google is b0rken then )
>
It seems to be b-rken quite a lot these days or is it my typing?

> Anyway, maybe you could try to see with 'lsof' if some clients
> are not too greedy.
Aren't they always
>

Le Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:08:06 +0000, Darren a écrit*:

>
> "Loki Harfagr" <loki@DarkDesign.free.fr> wrote in message
> news:42a08179$0$16146$626a14ce@news.free.fr...
>> Le Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:52:55 +0000, Darren a écrit :
>>
>> > me again. not my day today.
....
>> > I mounted a remote mailbox to /var/spool/mail on
>> > a local machine using mount. now i can read the mail in the mailboxes
> via vi
>> > or a text editor but as soon as i try to read it using 'mail' it pauses
> for
>> > a while then comes back with "Unable to lock mailbox: No locks
> available"
>>
>> Have you been recently playing with NFS ?
>> Is it that your "remote mailbox" is NFS'd ?
>>
>> Then you have what happens recurrently in these kind of
>> installations ... That's one of the reasons POP3 and IMAP
>> are there :-)
> I use them bu default but tbh I wanted to play with nfs to get it working

Yes, I was joking :-)

>> Mmm, you Google is b0rken then )
>>
> It seems to be b-rken quite a lot these days or is it my typing?

Could be, coulbe, though I made the joke while pasting this link
(found by gl0OgeinG), and it didn't print )

Hope it'll help you ?
http://www.cs.wits.ac.za/~jon/help/u...r/nolocks.html

>> Anyway, maybe you could try to see with 'lsof' if some clients
>> are not too greedy.
> Aren't they always

Half as much as our PHBs ;-)

The lsof is to use just in case. I'd bet your actual problem is
more related to using 'mail' (especially if after VI) and not
having your NFS set to such bold :-)
What does your NFS says about 'sync' ?

And, any old time, NFS is great but it can be really bitchy,
especially when using database and mail, really demanding apps ...

G00d lucK, and keep moving !-)

Darren wrote:


>> out of curiosity, what kind of 'remote' connection is that? nfs?
> Didn't i say? *looks up* Damned I forgot to mention. Yes its nfs

what options are used for exporting/mounting it?

"Loki Harfagr" <loki@DarkDesign.free.fr> wrote in message
news:42a092ae$0$23475$626a14ce@news.free.fr...
> Le Fri, 03 Jun 2005 17:08:06 +0000, Darren a écrit :
>
> >
> > "Loki Harfagr" <loki@DarkDesign.free.fr> wrote in message
> > news:42a08179$0$16146$626a14ce@news.free.fr...
> >> Le Fri, 03 Jun 2005 14:52:55 +0000, Darren a écrit :
> >>
> >> > me again. not my day today.
> ...
> >> > I mounted a remote mailbox to /var/spool/mail on
> >> > a local machine using mount. now i can read the mail in the mailboxes
> > via vi
> >> > or a text editor but as soon as i try to read it using 'mail' it
pauses
> > for
> >> > a while then comes back with "Unable to lock mailbox: No locks
> > available"
> >>
> >> Have you been recently playing with NFS ?
> >> Is it that your "remote mailbox" is NFS'd ?
> >>
> >> Then you have what happens recurrently in these kind of
> >> installations ... That's one of the reasons POP3 and IMAP
> >> are there :-)
> > I use them bu default but tbh I wanted to play with nfs to get it
working
>
> Yes, I was joking :-)
Sorry, I must get my sense of humour repaired
>
> >> Mmm, you Google is b0rken then )
> >>
> > It seems to be b-rken quite a lot these days or is it my typing?
>
> Could be, coulbe, though I made the joke while pasting this link
> (found by gl0OgeinG), and it didn't print )
>
> Hope it'll help you ?
> http://www.cs.wits.ac.za/~jon/help/u...r/nolocks.html
did the trick. i used the -f option and it ran ok so i aliased it.
>
> >> Anyway, maybe you could try to see with 'lsof' if some clients
> >> are not too greedy.
> > Aren't they always
>
> Half as much as our PHBs ;-)
>
> The lsof is to use just in case. I'd bet your actual problem is
> more related to using 'mail' (especially if after VI) and not
> having your NFS set to such bold :-)
Nah. I Vi'd because i couldn't mail
mind you i got an access error when i rebooted about no execution of portmap
so i chmodded it and it fixed that so when i typed mail i got the error
instantly instead of after a delay.
> What does your NFS says about 'sync' ?
it mention no sync or async was specified.
>
> And, any old time, NFS is great but it can be really bitchy,
> especially when using database and mail, really demanding apps ..
perhaps i'll stick to pop and imap for mail then .
>
> G00d lucK, and keep moving !-)

I have to or the bullets would hit me.

what do you mean? the exports? they ere exported read and write
"Dominik L. Borkowski" <dom@vbi.vt.edu> wrote in message
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> Darren wrote:
>
>
> >> out of curiosity, what kind of 'remote' connection is that? nfs?
> > Didn't i say? *looks up* Damned I forgot to mention. Yes its nfs
>
> what options are used for exporting/mounting it?

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:25:03 GMT, "Darren" <darren@notathome.net> wrote:
> > What does your NFS says about 'sync' ?
> it mention no sync or async was specified.

Check that, it _is_ needed these days, but I forget default

Just peeked, I have 'sync' specifed in etc/exports, also enable
NFS TCP option if you compile your own kernels. Not that I've
benchmarked it, seems a better idea than the default NFS over UDP.

--Grant.