Joseph Rosevear wrote :

>
> Thank you, Thomas. I never thought to treat the news server as a
> server. And I didn't know to use port 119.
>
Take a look at /etc/services here you'll find all services listed with
the default port.

> I couldn't get "list newsgroups *.test" to work. Could that be a
> server peculiarity perhaps?

I think so. I've tried telnetting a handful of newsservers and they all
did honor the 'list newsgroups' command, but if you run 'help' then the
server should list all legal commands. Maybe the server is more happy
about the 'list active' command.
>
> One little question though. How did you know that I was using
> "news1.abac.com"?
>
Its shown in the header of your messages. I don't know tin so I cant tell
you how to make it show all headers. But I've found this in tin's man
page:
PageToggleHeaders '^H'
Toggles the display mode (raw including all headers vs. cooked)

I think that should do it.
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Le Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:42:44 -0800, Joseph Rosevear a écrit*:

> Thomas Overgaard <thover@post2.tele.dk> wrote:
>>
>> Joseph H. Rosevear wrote :
>>
>>> 1) Is there an "alt.test"? (I'll go look and see, what I can find,
>>> but help me if you can.)
>>
>> Try these three commands and watch the output from the 'list newsgroups'
>> command carefully:
>> telnet news1.abac.com 119
>> list newsgroups *.test
>> quit
>
> Thank you, Thomas. I never thought to treat the news server as a
> server. And I didn't know to use port 119.
>
> I couldn't get "list newsgroups *.test" to work. Could that be a
> server peculiarity perhaps? I've seen differences in smtp server
> behavior, so I wonder?
>
> Instead I did this: I made a file called test that contains this:
>
> list
> quit
>
> Then I did this:
>
> (cat test | nc news1.abac.com 119) | less
>
> Once in less I searched for test (via "/test"). That worked really
> neat and allowed me to extend what I learned recently about the use of

you can save your list and search in it without opening it with grep,
it'll save some time and mem:

(cat test | nc news1.abac.com 119) > /tmp/myNewserverList

$ grep test /tmp/myNewserverList
$ grep whatever /tmp/myNewserverList

> nc (netcat) to send emails directly through my ISP's smtp server.
>
> One little question though. How did you know that I was using
> "news1.abac.com"?

Have a look at some of your headers )

===>
Message-ID: <43bf70f4@news1.abac.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 216-55-130-148.dialup.tnt01.san-diego.abac.net
....
X-Trace: news1.abac.com 1136619764 216.55.130.148 (6 Jan 2006 23:42:44 -0800)
====

And 216.55.130.148 is the IP@ of your server (or its NS pointer to it)

Loki Harfagr wrote :

> And 216.55.130.148 is the IP@ of your server (or its NS pointer to it)

No. 216.55.130.148 is the IP Joseph used to post the message,
news1.abac.com has this IP 216.55.128.13
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Thomas Overgaard <thover@post2.tele.dk> trolled:

> Loki Harfagr wrote :

> > And 216.55.130.148 is the IP@ of your server (or its NS pointer
> > to it)

> No. 216.55.130.148 is the IP Joseph used to post the message,
> news1.abac.com has this IP 216.55.128.13

Close enough for me. I can't even find the original post now to
check. They are both dialup, dynamic ip addresses, used by the same
poster. One guy needs to use Outlook Express to imitate my name...

It doesn't matter. I can easily change my name each time out and if
I have to do that, everybody who has me in their killfile will be
pissed, won't they?

cordially, as always,

rm

Le Sat, 07 Jan 2006 12:20:49 +0100, Thomas Overgaard a écrit*:

>
> Loki Harfagr wrote :
>
>> And 216.55.130.148 is the IP@ of your server (or its NS pointer to it)
>
> No. 216.55.130.148 is the IP Joseph used to post the message,
> news1.abac.com has this IP 216.55.128.13

Yes, silly me, that's the DMZ address attributed to Joseph DSLAM' point.
I wanted to type 'client' and I typed 'server', I wish I won't do
this at work )

Loki Harfagr <loki@darkdesign.free.fr> wrote:
> Le Fri, 06 Jan 2006 23:42:44 -0800, Joseph Rosevear a [snip]:

[snip]

>> Instead I did this: I made a file called test that contains this:
>>
>> list
>> quit
>>
>> Then I did this:
>>
>> (cat test | nc news1.abac.com 119) | less
>>
>> Once in less I searched for test (via "/test"). That worked really
>> neat and allowed me to extend what I learned recently about the use of

> you can save your list and search in it without opening it with grep,
> it'll save some time and mem:

> (cat test | nc news1.abac.com 119) > /tmp/myNewserverList

Thanks, Loki. Actually I got some benefit from doing it the way I did.
I have a dialup connection and I didn't need to see all the instances
of "test" in the list of news groups. The way I did it allowed me to
do the search and get results before all the instances of list were
found. Perhaps I'll write the results to a file sometime when I have
time enough. How long could it take?

-Joe

Thomas Overgaard <thover@post2.tele.dk> wrote:

> Joseph Rosevear wrote :

[snip]

>> One little question though. How did you know that I was using
>> "news1.abac.com"?
>>
> Its shown in the header of your messages. I don't know tin so I cant tell
> you how to make it show all headers. But I've found this in tin's man
> page:
> PageToggleHeaders '^H'
> Toggles the display mode (raw including all headers vs. cooked)

> I think that should do it.

It did. Thanks.

-Joe

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Realto Margarino <rm@biteme.org> wrote:
>
> Close enough for me. I can't even find the original post now to
> check. They are both dialup, dynamic ip addresses, used by the same
> poster. One guy needs to use Outlook Express to imitate my name...

Who in the hell would ever want to imitate you? you're not
worthy of a cheap knockoff.

> It doesn't matter. I can easily change my name each time out and if
> I have to do that, everybody who has me in their killfile will be
> pissed, won't they?

Depending on what parameters they are using for your killfile.
And as I use tin as well, there's a lot more in the version I'm using,
than yours (1.6.2). But you do already know that, as you are much more
of a Slackware zealot than the rest of us here, aren't you?

> cordially, as always,

You being cordial is like the sun forgetting to set.

BL.
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Loki Harfagr wrote :

> I wanted to type 'client' and I typed 'server', I wish I won't do
> this at work )

I've been trying to imagine the possible consequences of such a mistake.
And now I've got a headache...
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Joseph H. Rosevear wrote :

> I have a dialup connection

Then you could benefit from using Leafnode, its a small easily
configured newsserver that creates your own newsspool.

If you have Leafnode installed and configured you can dialup and run the
'fetchnews' command. Leafnode will then fetch all new messages in those
groups you are subscribed to and after this you can close the connection.

Then you can sit offline and read news and maybe post a reply and when
your through this you can dialup again, run 'fetchnews' and your replys
is sent to your ISP's newsserver and new messages (if any) is fetched.
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