Hello all,

I'm not new to usenet, but I'm a relatively new tin user. I seem to be
able to browse, post, and reply prettly well using tin. But the only
way I have to find an article is to google for it.

This is not at all satisfying since I'd rather not use Google.
Browsing, posting, and replying go much faster in tin, and I don't like
the idea of having Google make complex something that is simpler,
otherwise.

I'd settle for searching for articles using Google (it seems to do it
well), but Google doesn't seem to give the message ID or number.

So... my question(s):

->How can I search for an article without using Google. I'd like to
query the news server directly. Can that be done? Is there a
convenient way, otherwise? (I'm a Linux Slackware user.)

->OK, if the above doesn't prove reasonable, how can I get Google to
tell me the message id or number?

-Joe

On 2006-01-08, Joseph H. Rosevear <joe_rosevear@rosevear.hopto.org> wrote:

> ->How can I search for an article without using Google. I'd like to
> query the news server directly. Can that be done?

Yes, but only to a point. Your usenet (news) access provider
determines how many past articles are retained on their server. Could
be a couple hours, days, or weeks. It all depends on the service and
how they rate a particular group.. Your news client should have a
search function for all the articles on your provider's server. If
not, try another client.

> ->OK, if the above doesn't prove reasonable, how can I get Google to
> tell me the message id or number?

Google > groups > advanced groups search

search for message, then:

select message > show options > show original

nb