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Old 02-20-2008, 03:26 PM
Ronald Matthews
 
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Default Windoze vs. Linux

Unbiased testing and comparison:

http://www.microsoft.com/canada/gett...s/default.mspx

cordially, as always,

rm
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:26 PM
Craig Woodward
 
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UnBiased? Microsoft customers, using previous Microsoft products think the
newer products from Microsoft are better? Thats you're idea of unbiased?
Let me guess, you're a big fan of Fox News too, right?

If you want to blow MS's horn, go right ahead, in a microsoft news group.
Your sad input here is not needed. Especially when they ask what product-Z
works best with Linux, and your "advice" is "just use windows". If they
wanted to know about windows, they would have asked. They want advice on
Linux. If you don't want to give advice on the topic, then piss off.

(And thats my "unbiased" reply.)


Ronald Matthews (rm@IsukMS<o<k.com) wrote:
> Unbiased testing and comparison:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/canada/gett...s/default.mspx
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm

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Old 02-20-2008, 03:26 PM
Two Ravens
 
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Craig Woodward topposted:

<snip>

Several readers of this newsgroup may disapprove of rm's comments or his
form of expressing them. However he does manage to at least place them in
the appropriate part of the message.

If you would like more information please read:
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html

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Old 02-20-2008, 03:26 PM
Ronald Matthews
 
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Default Re: Windoze vs. Linux

Craig Woodward <woody@roncohsepsatmer.rr.com> trolled:

> UnBiased? Microsoft customers, using previous Microsoft products
> think the newer products from Microsoft are better? Thats you're
> idea of unbiased? Let me guess, you're a big fan of Fox News too,
> right?


Three cheers for Sean Hannity!

> If you want to blow MS's horn, go right ahead, in a microsoft news
> group. Your sad input here is not needed. Especially when they
> ask what product-Z works best with Linux, and your "advice" is
> "just use windows". If they wanted to know about windows, they
> would have asked. They want advice on Linux. If you don't want
> to give advice on the topic, then piss off.


You should always use the best application for the job you have to
do. And if that application demands the use of Windoze, then
Windoze is what you should use.

Again, because you're a linux zealot. It is the best application
that determines the OS, and it is not the OS that determines the
best application.

> (And thats my "unbiased" reply.)


And top-posted, to boot.

G'nite Alice,

cordially, as always,

rm
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:26 PM
prodigal1
 
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Craig Woodward fed the troll:
please don't get fooled again
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:26 PM
onofrio panzarino
 
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Ronald Matthews wrote:
> Unbiased testing and comparison:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/canada/gett...s/default.mspx
>
> cordially, as always,
>


According to the "facts" oracle 10g was discovered to have 2.5
vulnerabilities per month, against 0.4 of MySQL and PostGre, and 0.2 of
Sql Server2000.

If it's right could be cool: mysql more secure than oracle!

Unfortunately Sql Server 2000 is not more secure than oracle, so
"Unbiased testing" is also called "marketing".

Regards,
onof
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:26 PM
Ronald Matthews
 
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prodigal1 <prodig@l1.com> trolled:

[cowardly troll deleted, unread]
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Old 02-20-2008, 03:27 PM
ray
 
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:30:13 +0000, Ronald Matthews wrote:

> Unbiased testing and comparison:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/canada/gett...s/default.mspx
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm


You can certainly rely on MicroSoft for unbiased testing and comparison of
Linux and MS.

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Old 02-20-2008, 03:27 PM
rwwff@yahoo.com
 
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Default Re: Windoze vs. Linux

Please forgive me for feeding the trolls...

>You should always use the best application for the job you have to
>do. And if that application demands the use of Windoze, then
>Windoze is what you should use.


Curious about your take on something rm. What makes something "the
best" application? When I look at apps to install, I see a
multidimensional space of price, familiarity, security, stability, ease
of admin, and compatibility that is different in virtually every
situation I encounter. Granted there are a few jobs that are
painfully obvious, for instance, internet video telephony with a
previously installed base of hardware; running particular games that
require particular OS's and video hardware, or running a $15,000
scanner that has operating software specific to a type and version of
an OS, etc. But most aren't anywhere near as clear.

I solve this for myself with a cluster of CPU's hooked up to an 8 port
KVM switch; but for most users that's way beyond the comfort zone.

College kid with $600 to spend on a computer... What could he get?
Here's some things I can think of.
1. Older IBM Thinkpad off ebay running Win2K, install AVG, Gimp &
Open Office;
max out the RAM and upgrade the hard drive to 60 gb.
2. New CPU with 512mb, 40 gb drive, and 17" crt. Linux, gimp. open
office, x suite.
netscape/mozilla,/etc.

Small comany, office space with 5 trained workers, all already
comfortable with Microsoft Office 2000.
1. Newest, fastest CPUS, with as much RAM as will fit and 300gb
drives, running
XP Pro (to make them feel cool, as much as anything) and five
licenses of
Office 2000, traced down from any legitimate source I can lay
my hands on.

Plus 1 Linux server with samba, apache, mysql, sshd, and
rsyncd.


Now, perhaps to your way of thinking, the restricted budget buyer isn't
worth considering, and if one is mostly interested in business and
market share, I don't necessarily disagree. However, from a usenet
discussion point of view, the library in Mozambique with a thousand
bucks to spend on five computers and a printer gets the same import as
some sophisticated IT department head rolling out 500 new computers to
City X Central Office. In reality, most of us are somewhere in
between, businesses that would rather sit on a dozen Pentium II Win95
machines running Office 95 for as long as they can keep them running
are not aberations; they are typical.

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Old 02-20-2008, 03:27 PM
Stanislaw Flatto
 
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onofrio panzarino wrote:
> Ronald Matthews wrote:
>
>> Unbiased testing and comparison:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/canada/gett...s/default.mspx
>>
>> cordially, as always,
>>

>
> According to the "facts" oracle 10g was discovered to have 2.5
> vulnerabilities per month, against 0.4 of MySQL and PostGre, and 0.2 of
> Sql Server2000.
>
> If it's right could be cool: mysql more secure than oracle!
>
> Unfortunately Sql Server 2000 is not more secure than oracle, so
> "Unbiased testing" is also called "marketing".
>
> Regards,
> onof


"Unbiased testing"(?!)
From personal experience (25 years in aerospace testing) I learned that:
"On a plane you can always draw a stright line through any three points,
if it is thick enough."
Q.E.D.


Stanislaw
Slack user from Ulladulla.

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