Hi, I have several email programms installed on my system including
elm, mutt, pine, etc. Can I set any one of these programs to only
download new emails? (I don't want to download abt 200mb of my gmail
storage).

-What's a good program for email under console?
-Which one do you find to be most user friendly?
-What are some of the best features that makes this email program
superior to all others?

Thanks for reading & answering.

Jack wrote:

> -What's a good program for email under console?

I've been using Pine for about as long as I've been reading email, and
although there are a small number of things that frustrate me with it, I
find it's mostly very usable, and have long ago stopped considering
whether I should try other mail clients.

Most folks I know who read mail from a CLI interface use either Pine or
some version of MH (mostly nmh these days). Those that are using MH
appear to have integrated it so fully into their work habits that it
seems it would cripple them to switch to a different mail user agent.
Those using pine don't appear to have any complaints.

I've known only one person who use[ds] Mutt, but he was quite
enthusiastic about it (at least to the extent that one can be
"enthusiastic" about a mail user agent).

> -Which one do you find to be most user friendly?

I'm sure that all those you've mentioned (Elm, Mutt, Pine) are
sufficiently "user friendly" and may be "most user friendly" to some
portion of the community. You might need to just try each to see which
seems most intuitive to you.

> -What are some of the best features that makes this email program
> superior to all others?

I only have substantial experience with Pine, and therefore cannot make
any claims as to its superority to other mail user agents, but one of my
favorite features in Pine, and one which I would consider critical in
any new mail client software I might switch to, is the ability to
operate on multiple messages at one time, and particularly the ability
to pipe multiple raw messages, individually, to an arbitrary command.

> Can I set any one of these programs to only download new emails? (I
> don't want to download abt 200mb of my gmail storage).

If Gmail will let you access your messages via IMAP rather than POP, you
won't need to download any of the messages, but rather will be able to
simply operate on them in place on Gmail's server. Pine uses IMAP for
remote mail access by default, but can be made to operate over POP as
well.

On the other hand, if you use fetchmail to retrieve your mail from
Gmail, you can have it retrieve only new messages, and then you can use
procmail for local delivery, with very powerful filtering and sorting.

I hope that helps ...

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In alt.os.linux.slackware, Jack dared to utter,
> -What's a good program for email under console?

This is probably the hardest question to answer. Everyone has
different preferences. Most CLI MUAs are very good to some portion of
the user base, so you'll just have to try them out and see which you
prefer.

> -Which one do you find to be most user friendly?

Another tough one. This depends on what you mean by user friendly. If
you want something quick and easy to setup, give pine a shot. If you
want something that will let you do just about anything, but which may
require more configuration than you're used to, mutt is probably the
best pick, IMHO.

> -What are some of the best features that makes this email program
> superior to all others?

pine and mutt are both very mature. Of the two, pine is easy to get
setup, but not as easy to extend. mutt will require quite a bit more
configuration, but if you're willing to put in the time and effort
necessary, I think you'll find yourself very happy.

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"Jack" <wk1989@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi, I have several email programms installed on my system including
> elm, mutt, pine, etc. Can I set any one of these programs to only
> download new emails? (I don't want to download abt 200mb of my gmail
> storage).
>
> -What's a good program for email under console?
> -Which one do you find to be most user friendly?
> -What are some of the best features that makes this email program
> superior to all others?
>
> Thanks for reading & answering.

Depends on which editor you use.

If you go for Vim, vi, joe jed, nanp, whatever, then Mutt

If you use Emacs you could use Mutt, but why would you when Gnus is
available? The basic set-up is no harder than for Mutt, the nice thing
being that it is also good for news. If you handle a lot of e-mail, Gnus
is great.

The tutorial is here.

http://my.gnus.org/tutorial/


Good luck


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On Thu, 11 May 2006 16:06:39 -0700, Jack wrote:

> Hi, I have several email programms installed on my system including
> elm, mutt, pine, etc. Can I set any one of these programs to only
> download new emails? (I don't want to download abt 200mb of my gmail
> storage).

Simplest would be to set your POP settings under gmail. That would solve
your problem in about 5 seconds, especially if this is a one-off.
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globule. Consequently, my family pride is something inconceivable."
-- Gilbert & Sullivan, The Mikado

Thanks for the answers to my questions, yeah I guess I'll follow what
people suggested and try each to find out which is better for me.

Sylvain Robitaille wrote:
> Jack wrote:
>> -What are some of the best features that makes this email program
>> superior to all others?
>
> I only have substantial experience with Pine, and therefore cannot make
> any claims as to its superority to other mail user agents, but one of my
> favorite features in Pine, and one which I would consider critical in
> any new mail client software I might switch to, is the ability to
> operate on multiple messages at one time, and particularly the ability
> to pipe multiple raw messages, individually, to an arbitrary command.

Another Pine perk: the remote addressbook.
Pine can be setup to store its addressbook as messages in a mail folder
on the server; this allows you to easily use Pine across multiple
networks. You can also store your configuration file in this way, but I
don't since I need to use different mail servers depending on location.

Its not enabled by default, but the "enable-aggregate-command-set"
option is quite nice. Press ';' to start a select, then specify details
about the messages of interest, and press 'z' to zoom in on the selection.

- Daniel

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_.-In alt.os.linux.slackware, Jack wrote the following -._
> Hi, I have several email programms installed on my system including
> elm, mutt, pine, etc. Can I set any one of these programs to only
> download new emails? (I don't want to download abt 200mb of my gmail
> storage).

First of all mutt and maybe a few of the others there don't download
the emails. fetchmail does. And with fetchmail you can have a whole
lot of control over what gets downloaded and what doesn't.

> -What's a good program for email under console?

mutt

> -Which one do you find to be most user friendly?

pine

> -What are some of the best features that makes this email program
> superior to all others?

mutt: you can make macros and thus make it do anything you want. It
takes time to learn. It takes time to set it up. But you are making
it what you want it and not changing what you want because of what it
says is the way to do things. I started on pine but found that as the
years went by it wasn't moving fast enough in development to keep up
with the things I wanted to do. I switched to mutt and changed all
they key settings to be like pine so I didn't have to relearn that.
Then I slowley changed it on the rest of the settings. One thing I
loved going through http://www.dotfiles.com/ and finding some really
nice .mutt.rc files.

The one got doesn't seem to be there now. It compartmentalizes
everything like general, pgp, color, aliases, hooks etc into its own
rc file and creates a macro to load up just that file for editing and
then reloads the file once you are done so all changes become
instant.

Small sample of the updated help "?" menu. The "M" means macro.

<Esc>A M !emacsclient ~/.mutt/mutt.aut... edit autoview file and reload it
<Esc>B M !emacsclient ~/.mutt/mutt.bin... edit bindings and macros file and reload it
<Esc>C M !emacsclient ~/.mutt/mutt.col... edit colour file and reload it
<Esc>G M !emacsclient ~/.mutt/mutt.gpg... edit gpg/pgp file and reload it
<Esc>H M !emacsclient ~/.mutt/mutt.hoo... edit hooks file and reload it
<Esc>J M :set signature=~/.sig.formal\n set the _FORMAL_ signature
<Esc>L M !emacsclient ~/.mutt/mutt.mli... edit mailing lists file and reload it
<Esc>M M !emacsclient ~/.mailcap\n:sou... edit mailcap file and reload it
<Esc>S M !emacsclient ~/.mutt/mutt.sco... edit scores file and reload it
<Esc>a M !emacsclient ~/.aliases\n:sou... edit aliases file and reload it
<Esc>b M /~b search in message bodies
<Esc>e M !emacsclient ~/.mutt/mutt.sid... edit sidebars file and reload it
<Esc>g M !emacsclient ~/.mutt/mutt.gen... edit general options file and reload it
<Esc>h M !emacsclient ~/.mutt/mutt.hea... edit headers file and reload it
<Esc>j M :set signature=~/.signature\n set the _INFORMAL_ signature
<Esc>m M !emacsclient ~/.mutt/mutt.mis... edit misc file and reload it

This is all really nice when you are tweaking every setting but once
you get it all set up you will go months without thinking about it
until you need to do someting different. You create your own
intuative interface.

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On 2006-05-16, Faux_Pseudo <Faux.Pseudo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> _.-In alt.os.linux.slackware, Jack wrote the following -._
>> Hi, I have several email programms installed on my system including
>> elm, mutt, pine, etc. Can I set any one of these programs to only
>> download new emails? (I don't want to download abt 200mb of my gmail
>> storage).

Is there somewhere a list of all the programs that come with slackware
in order by category, for example: all the mua's, all the gui mua's,
all the wordprocessors, etc.? I sort of remember seeing such a list
but I can't remember where.
At the moment I'm wondering about the gui mua's but in general it would
be nice to look over what's there by category.

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On 2006-05-16, Faux_Pseudo <Faux.Pseudo@gmail.com> wrote:

> First of all mutt and maybe a few of the others there don't download
> the emails. fetchmail does.

There are some problems, though. Be aware that using fetchmail
together with pine creates a problem with attachments. When I used
the two on slack 9.1 and 10, one or the other would limit attachment
size to 60KB max, no matter the file type. I never did find out the
cause and gave up and went to a Mozilla's mail client. If someone
knows the cause, I'd love to hear it. I might go back to pine, which
worked fine with graphic attachments using display in xwindows.

nb